Guest SideEffect Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I would have to say tna is becoming the next wcw, look at the big push the were giving the alpha male and then they brought in jeff hardy and look all he is doing is making the alpha male job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidel Cashflow 130 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 yeah, they were pushing Monty to the moon, then he jobs to Jeff Hardy. Bad tna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RvD316 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Yeah I wanted Monty to be in the main event at Victory Road but I understand why TNA chose Jeff Hardy. He is pretty much there biggest star commercially. As long as he doesn't get the title then I'm fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidel Cashflow 130 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 thats the problem, its a latter match, and ita at TNA's biggest event so far, so most likely Hardy wil get the belt. They should be pushing AJ not, Jeff "Coke now, wrestling later" Hardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SideEffect Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 i disagree with you spirial aj got his push they just need to get jeff to the top of the ladder<duh he is jeff hardy> and then they will build your man aj then ofcourse he will be jobbing to my man jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jayden Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 TNA is particticularly poor right now at a time when it needs to be strong. Victory Road looks very very weak. Even the matches on the card that have the potential to be great, Styles Vs Williams, haven't been built right at all. Jeff Hardy is not their biggest star. If any of you have watched TNA recently he's bombed with the crowd completely. Nobody wants to see him wrestle Jarrett again. In fact judging by the response he gets there these days nobody wants him to wrestle full stop. The match will pretty much suck and it will only be interesting if Jeff takes some kind of sick bump. I don't believe for a second that they are going to have Hardy win whether it's a ladder match or not. They're not dumb enough to give the world title to someone who the crowd have been booing, chanting boring at, and preferring to cheer for heel opponents he's been wrestling than for him. The existing TNA fans don't like him at all. I guess they feel that he can attract people who've never watched TNA before on his name value. Something which personally I don't think he can. Hell, they might as well have just got in ICP or something if they wanted to do that. Personally I think they are right not to give the spot to Monty Brown. They've tried to get him over in time and failed. He's got bags of charisma but they need to work out whether they want him as a face or a heel. Hardy is no bigger a star right now than someone like Brown though. TNA fans are much more into the likes of AMW, Styles, Abyss etc than they are Hardy. Perhaps this was the time they gave us the Raven Vs Jarrett rematch. Or maybe an Abyss Vs Jarrett ladder match. Or of course, how about putting the awesome Ron Killings into the match. As for Styles, I think he's in the right place right now. We've seen Jarrett Vs Styles. How anyone can say "they need to push Styles" when they've basically pushed him to the mooon right from day one is ridiculous. They couldn't push him any harder and the match he's going to have with Williams, even though it's not been built properly is going to be outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Brown sucks. To the casual fan he's a nobody, and someone like him shouldn't be in the main event of the supposed number 2 company in the world. I also agree though that Hardy shouldn't be main event either. But then there's the question of who should be instead. Personally there are plenty of others I'd rather see up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jayden Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Brown doesn't suck. He has bags of charisma and a good look. He isn't the best in the ring but with the right opponent he can put on a good match. Should he be main eventing in TNA? He should be there as much as Jeff HArdy should. At least Brown has some charisma and his matches are no worse than Jeff's. and someone like him shouldn't be in the main event of the supposed number 2 company in the world. they aren't the supposed number 2 company in the world. They are the 2nd biggest company in the US but there are much bigger promotions and companies than them out there. who should be instead of Hardy? Well, Abyss is more over than Hardy right now. Killings is better than Hardy and they actually chant his name when he comes out. Chris Harris could have been pushed better to this point coz the crowd love him. Raven in the long awaited rematch would have been good, even though he's starting to bomb a bit at the moment, jsut like Hardy. There are plenty of options. I wouldn't have had a problem with Hardy if this was the first match between the two. I had no problem with him coming in, and being thrust into a main event and world title shot. the problem is that they've already done that. Since then his popularity with the TNA fans has become non existent and i don't think he drags in any casual fans. He may have done at first, but his impact has gone now. People already know he's there and have done for a while, and for the most part anyone who wants to watch simply for Jeff Hardy is already watching (and in many cases has already been watching and has now switched off because they realise he's dull) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Hey, I'm not saying Jeff Hardy is better than Monty Brown... I'm a Jeff Hardy hater through and through... I just don't see the appeal in Mr. Brown myself, and I doubt many other casual fans do/would do either. And fair enough they aren't number 2 in the world... I forgot about all the Japanese companies etc... just goes to show how the American way of thinking can get to you sometimes! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jayden Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 no that's understandable but I just think that Brown's is better than you give him credit for. I'm not suggesting he's some sort of awesome talent but he has three things going for him that 2/3 of the TNA roster don't. He can talk. He has a good look. And he actually looks like a wrestler. Those things do make a difference. He's been saddled with a crap gimmick and manager to get over with it. Ok, TNA fans may like him, and sure casual ones wouldn't have a clue who he was but I know plenty of people who have only just started watching TNA who have gotten into his character already. Thing is, you could say that no casual fan is going to be into Monty Brown because they don't know who he is. Same goes for AJ STyles, Abyss, Ron Killings, hell even the likes of Raven would probably be remembered as "that crap guy that was in WWE for a bit" by casual fans. TNA has never been about casual fans, and they arne't about to start winning them now in such a short space of time. The best thing they can do is put out a decent product with new and interesting talent. Then when people do tune in they'll see something worth sticking with. Instead of seeing two guys who aren't good enough for the WWE and used to be interesting, ie Jarrett and Hardy, wrestling in some crap main event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyndorf 389 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 It seems TNA have it all wrong, I agree that Monty would be far better in the main event than Hardy, but TNA seem to think that cos Hardy's more widely known he'll create more buys. I just can't see anyone who doesn't watch TNA buying the PPV, maybe if they had Hogan on it, but Hardy, Hall and Nash? As has been said Hardys impact has worn off, and the WWE already brought back Hall and Nash and they flopped, why would they fair any better in TNA? The JJ vs Hardy main event is made worse by it being a Ladder match, Hardy has had some great ladder matches, but with Jarrett, I am assured it will be crap. And there's TNA's biggest problem, Jeff Jarrett.I know he owns the company, but he really is the most average performer I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch 204 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Monty Brown is a decent enough talent. hes certainly very under rated thus far in his career and Im certain he can go far in the path of his career. In terms of Hardy being pushed, like Jayden says Jeff hardy was booed against Abyss by fans who chanted to see the blackhole slam which in itslef is a big drop down considering these are the same fans who cheered for Hardy early on in his TNA career. the move to have hardy in the main event of their first ppv when it looked as though monty at first perplexed some but not me. TNA want to draw in new viewers with this PPV. People look to the main event for a overall feel for the PPV. When they see two relatively unknowns on the main event it puts them off. When they see an established former WWE star on the main event it makes them want to watch. When they now see 3 Former Established WWE stars on the main event card it again is a bigger draw than an unknown like Monty Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jayden Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 And there's TNA's biggest problem, Jeff Jarrett.I know he owns the company, but he really is the most average performer I've ever seen. that's fairly ridiculous. the psychology of his matches holds them together. you might see his opponents hitting the flashy moves but trust me, Jarrett is the one dragging them to a decent match, not the other way round. I think the thing everyone needs to remember is that this isn't the WWE, and it's nowhere near as big. You say Hall and Nash flopped in WWE so what's the point in them being in TNA. Well, TNA's a hell of a lot smaller. What is an average star to WWE is a big star to TNA. Who exactly do you expect them to sign? For a promotion the size of TNA they've bought in some pretty big names. About as big as they could expect to at this point. Because someone doesn't have the name value to draw in WWE anymore doesn't mean they won't in TNA. Would Jeff Jarrett in the main event at the Royal Rumble sell anymore? Almost certainly not. But then this isn't the WWE. Realistically they've got a guy like Nash coming in, who last year was main eventing a couple of pay per view's and wrestling for the world title. Now, that's a pretty big signing for them in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jung Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Nash and Hall will only help providing they put over the guys who need to be the head of the promotion over the long run. Monty Brown is alright, charisma and such, only problem is he's pretty lousy in ring, so he'd have to be carried completely, thus if you wanna push him as a big star of the company, they'd need an abundance of excellent workers who r near that level to put him over, something they don't have, thus he's not the best choice. At the moment TNA is a bit similar to WWE as it doesn't really have a direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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