Stop giving JBL a hard time!

[Guest Floyd]

The man plays his character better than anyone in the business!

 

the more succseful title defences he has, the more arrogant and funny he becomes= great tv.

 

there are very few people on smackdown that could do a better job of being a entertaining champ.

 

Give him dues for what he has achieved, the man deserves it.

[DC 536]

I agree with you Floyd. JBL has grown comfortable in his character and as such is entertaining in the role. It is a Million $ Man for 2004, but JBL work. I'm not comparing his reign to Flair's but JBLis doing what Flair did years ago. JBlis the man we pay to see lose, & each time he doesn't, it makes us more determined to see him lose next time.

 

JBL #1

 

HDC

[Guest HH-Evolution]

I agree - JBL may not be the best guy out on the mat, but his Promo's are gold...^^;

 

Still doesn't mean I can tolerate his championship for too much longer though, lol...

[Guest Jung]

Sure his promo's are good, but now, people are so tired of him, its bad heat not good heat. If he could work like Dibiase then fair enough, but his matches are incredibly forumlaic, and JBL himself is incredibly limited. Although the sad point is, right now, there aren't that many options as to who can be champ, that's at least fresh.

[Guest BWS Soldier]

i like JBL ok as said above he hasn't got the best ring work but his promos are excellent he really looks like he always enjoys himself ok maybe it is getting a bit boring him being the champ this long but i really enjoy it when JBL comes out and he makes me laugh anyway i do hope he loses the title soon though

[Guest Mr Dragon]

a Edited December 17, 2006 by Mr Dragon

[Guest HH-Evolution]

JBL and Benoit - put them in one body, and you have something that woulda been the greatest...XD

[Guest Floyd]

He can rock the mike as much has he wants. I don't pay to watch promos.

 

He can't bring it to the ring and that's all that matters.

 

i dont think u know what your talking about. great promos is what makes great matches.

 

wwe itself is all about promos- from promoting matches,superstars,ppvs,etc etc. they are the best in the business.

 

what fun would it be watching 2 guys fight that you never heard off? exactly- it would be boring, so therefor the promos are equally as important as the match. enough said.

[Guest Jung]

Promo's arent as important as the match. Promo's make you want to see the match, but if thats absolutely useless, then the payoff is lousy.

 

Neither Chris Benoit or Dean Malenko are particularly any good at promos, yet I'm incredibly sure they'd have a miles better match than JBL v say Gene Snitsky.

[Guest Mr Dragon]

a Edited December 17, 2006 by Mr Dragon

[Guest Floyd]

i am talkin about the wwe - entertainment

u cannot deny that there whole company is based on promos its what makes us tune in every week

if they had random guys pretend to fight each week, would we tune in? i think not because we wouldnt give a dam who won or loses.

thats why the wrestlers are 'characters' so we can relate or sympathise with them.

[Guest Mr Dragon]

a Edited December 17, 2006 by Mr Dragon

[Maxximus 353]

Wahahahahahahahahahahaha.

 

Yeah genius. Hokuto vs Kandori and Misawa vs Kawada sure do suck because there is no promo build up. Takada matches are worthless unless he busted out his catch phrases before hand. Misawa/Kobashi vs Kawada/Taue can be dismissed purely on the basis of no Mean Gene interview.

 

No one could ever tell a meaningful story within the confines of the ring itself. Never.

 

I would posit that it is you that have no real idea what it is you are talking about.

 

Dragon man, I know what you are trying to say dude, and I agree with you. Those matches are far better then anything that the WWE can bring to the plate. But this IS the US forum. If you should have learned one thing, it's that you can not argue japanese wrestling with die hard american wrestling fans...apples and oranges dude!

[Guest Mr Dragon]

a Edited December 17, 2006 by Mr Dragon

[Guest Jung]

As I said Benoit v Malenko or JBL v Snitsky. Promos can certainly make you more interested in a match. But I'm sure most people here would rather watch Chris Benoit v Jushin Liger match for 25 mins for no reason, than a 6 month feud between say JBL and John Heidenreich, all built up through promos.

[Paul 584]

As I said Benoit v Malenko or JBL v Snitsky. Promos can certainly make you more interested in a match. But I'm sure most people here would rather watch Chris Benoit v Jushin Liger match for 25 mins for no reason' date=' than a 6 month feud between say JBL and John Heidenreich, all built up through promos.[/quote']

 

 

Damn right! Im one of those.

[Guest Y2James]

Has JBL ever retained the belt without cheating of some way?

[Dead Crow 370]

I'd prefer Benoit and Lyger for a reason though.

 

I know what point you're making, but personally, I'd like anything given enough time to blossom and booked right. ANYONE can be made to look entertaining, if it's booked right.

[DC 536]

Wrestling doesn't "need" promos to be good and as I pointed out matches considered within the domain of "best ever" didn't have promos to bring them to that level.

 

While I can see your point I would say, IMO, that one of the best matches I have seen was Austin v Hart from WM13. The reason for this was because the promo's that set it up were spectacular, from Austin insulting Bret, making him return, to his loss at SS. The promo after that were Austin said he got lucky, the cheating at the Rumble, all the promo's leading up to WM made this an exciting match before they locked up. The fact the match lived up to the hype is irrelavent, the promo's made that match hot before it began, IMO. While I agree some matches don't need promo's, saying wrestling doesn't need promos is wrong. Imagine if The Rock never spoke, or Austin, or Foley, Angle, E&C, Jericho, or even Vince himself. So much of what we love about this business would never be. IMO, that's not a good thing, that's a bad thing. (apologies to DDP, circa 2001/2002).

 

lol HDC

[Guest Mr Dragon]

a Edited December 18, 2006 by Mr Dragon

[DC 536]

It was more your point, "Wrestling doesn't "need" promos", I was against. Using The Rock as an example. In his early years his work wasn't all that great, but his promo's IMO got him a position that kept him until his work caught up. Without promos, Vince would never have been able to become Mr. McMahon or had as a successful fued with Austin.

 

While I agree that some workers do get by on promos alone(Hogan IMO) and thats not good, saying wrestling doesn't need them at all is a bit much.

[Guest i lie pie]

Shhhhhhhhhh. JBL,JBL,JBL,JBL!

 

Personally I like his promos and think that he has improved tremendously in the ring.

 

As for the other topic promos help the match but for me the wrestlers should do their talking in the ring

[Guest Gooneronastick]

JBL sucks. There was a reason he didn't talk much when he was part of the Acolytes/APA and now we know why.

[Guest Telf]

JBL sucks. There was a reason he didn't talk much when he was part of the Acolytes/APA and now we know why.

 

Before I start, I would like to point out that i'm certainly not a JBL fan and am dismayed as to why WWE didnt give Booker the strap at SS.

 

However, IMO JBL has pretty decent mic skills - at least when you compare them to that of the likes of Edge and Benoit - however they back it up in the ring with their work - totally the opposite IMO of JBL

[Guest SideEffect]

ok lets just say this jbl=ric flair when he had nwa title except he dosent have the dusty finish and of any of ric flairs skill