Mike Tyson vs Bruce Lee

[Guest carlito is cool]

You all must have had this debate a few drinks into a night out, who would win a prime Tyson or a prime Bruce Lee?

 

Personally i back Tyson despite the obvious strength, power and weight advantage in his peak he tore through 18 stone heavyweights with frightening ease. Plus i have never seen any evidence of Lee in a competitive fight, sure he looks great in his films and his seminars but he wouldnt look that great in a real fight especially with a guy as ruthless as Tyson.

 

No doubting Lee was phenomanal at what he did but toe to toe with Tyson he gets owned. Obviously people have differing opinions but Tyson wasn't into fancy choreographed martial arts seminars with acrobats he was into knocking out world class heavyweight boxers and doing it with ease.

 

Watching Bruce Lee in his movies gives you a false impression of what martial arts is really like, everyone knows it doesn't flow or look anything like that when put into practice in a competitive arena, take pride or ufc for instance you dont have people landing spinning roundhouses sending the other guy backflipping over onto his head it just doesnt happen.

 

While undoubtedly talented i feel the 'unbeatable' in many peoples eyes Bruce Lee would have been smashed to pieces by a 20 year old Mike Tyson.

[Guest PHIZZLE]

who would win a prime Tyson or a prime Bruce Lee?

 

 

Vin Diesel

[Guest Popsi]

Neither, they'd both realise they weren't men until they'd beaten Chuck Norris. No one else matters.

[Guest Slim Jim]

Jackie Chan would be all like - "Hey Bruce Lee, why you try steal my thunder"

 

Then Bruce Lee would be all like - "Hey I Bruce Lee, I kill you"

 

Then Tyson will just come up behind them, bam bam. Kip up, JUDO CHOP.

 

Then they'd all be dead.

[Guest Jung]

Chuck Norris obviously would.

 

But in all seriousness, how would Mike Tyson kill Bruce Lee?

 

Lee can punch, kick and move a load quicker than Tyson, all Tyson had was a great punch.

 

Go look up Lee on imdb.com and look at his trivia facts, then still tell me Tyson would destroy him.

 

Absolutely insane.

[wyndorf 389]

I think I'd go with Lee. Simply put he's/was far more skilled fighter. How many routes could Tyson take? I mean, if Mike has his legs taken out Lee would cripple him, if Lee got behind Tyson, he would kill him.

 

Saying all this, though. If Iron Mike had one free shot.........

[Guest Bluestiger99]

Lee all the way. Not taking anything away from Tyson, but boxing is no match for martial arts. Lee would beat him like a red headed step child.

[Guest Anime Otaku]

boxing is no match for martial arts.

Ummm Dante mate, Boxing IS a martial art. A martial art is simply a system of fighting. I read a similar thing in Bruce Lee's Biography though in their example it was Ali rather than Tyson and really you need to define the rules the fight would take place under to find a winner. In a straight boxing match where Lee couldn't kick then he'd probably go down to his larger opponent but if it was done under MMA rules to allow kicking then Lee would just kick them into the middle of next week.

[Guest carlito is cool]

I subscribe to the theory that a good big guy always beats a good little guy. Plus ive never seen Lee in any form of competitive combat just choreographed movies and exhibitions. I saw Tyson tear through legitimate fighters with ease i didnt see Lee do that. Add to that the Tyson would have a considerable weight and strength advantage i see no other outcome than Tyson by brutal KO of his smaller foe.

 

Granted Lee was super quick but Tyson was no slouch and his head movement was second to none back in the day. Saying Tyson had nothing but a punch is crazy he was a masterful boxer when he needed to be. Bottom line ive seen Tyson do severe damage ive only heard stories and seen films of Lee in non competitive situations.

[Guest Anime Otaku]

Bruce Lee was a Champion Boxer and a Streetfighter who is reputed to have won far more than he lost. He also had punches and kicks so fast that to be seen on camera he needed to slow down he was just that fast.

[Guest carlito is cool]

Show me some footage of Bruce Lee steamrolling through 18 stone heavyweights with the ease Tyson had and id be impressed reputadly winning some street fights counts for nothing.

 

Undoubtedly Lee is a great fighter but a 20 year old Mike Tyson in my eyes was the most fierce, intense and damn right impressive athlete on the planet.

 

I like Lee and enjoy watching his films but i just because he has a speed advantage and can kick that doesn't give him the edge over Tyson in my eyes.

 

While i don't doubt Lee was a great Martial Artist there is alot of unfounded hype that surrounds him as with alot of deceased icons. Tyson on the contray was no myth his reputation was made in front of millions everytime he fought.

[Guest Nemesis Enforcer]

If Tyson slammed a hook into Lee's face its all over but I'd go for Bruce as he was quicker and would kick not just punch like Tyson could

[Guest daz2005]

Viscera

[Guest hitman]

its not about power, bruce lee would floor tyson in a second, theres like a hundred moves he can do that would kill him,

 

anything is possible when u find the strength with in

[Guest Jack]

anything is possible when u find the strength with in

Txt spk is banned on TWO.

 

Anyway, Tyson would kill him. Absolutely no doubt in my ind at all. Whil Lee had quick punches and kicks, I seriously doubt they would affect Tyson who took great shots from 17 stone Heavyweight's in his day.

 

You can't judge it solely on speed either. Tyson is probably the quickest boxer of the past 20 years. With his combined strength, he is certianly the most powerful, since probably Earnie Shavers, who is easily the the biggest hitter ever. While Lee was certainly fast, Tyson is no is no slouch either.

 

Just out of interest, what experiance did Lee have in fights? it's all well and good him making films, and teaching students how skilled he was, but was he ever hit full force?

 

What next, Jet Li or Fedor Emelianenko? The fighter will always win.

 

(Just thinking about it, Fedor vs Tyson would be a lot closer)

[BRM 220]

There would be far far far too much power behind one of Tyson punches. Lee would have to make sure that he avoided anything that Tyson would be able to throw at him.

 

Lee just would'nt be able to cope with the power, that Tyson posseses whilst Tyson could handle what Lee has to offer.

[Guest Twig]

Ummm Dante mate' date=' Boxing IS a martial art.[/quote']

 

Okay then. Boxing is no match for Jeet Kun Do.

[Guest Mr Dragon]

a Edited December 17, 2006 by Mr Dragon

[Guest The Genetic Jackhammer]

Oh my god this wouldnt even be a contest, Bruce Lee would rip Tyson apart....thats for sure.

[Guest Jung]

Yeah as mentioned earlier go to imdb.com type in Bruce Lee, go to his biography, and check his trivia.

 

He was in gangs as a teen constantly getting in trouble with the police, used to win anything goes streetfights too, as well as boxing matches against pretty much anyone in under 4 rounds, and could perform any martial arts move you asked him with dead accuracy, let alone create his own martial arts style, and constantly destroyed people who'd challenge him to fights to see if he was really tough.

 

And lets not forget the fact he had ridiculous speed (i.e the coin trick), trained with best martial arts instructors, and is cited as a major influence by the likes of Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell.

 

People think he was a movie star who learnt martial arts, when in reality its the complete other way round.

 

Anyone who thinks Tyson would get anywhere near Lee is absolutely insane.

 

Lee would destroy him.

 

Can't believe some of the sheer stupidity in this thread, that Tyson could destroy Lee, one of the greatest martial artists in every way ever (for which his movie stardom is irrelavent), considering he's a slow moving (in comparison to Lee) with just punching.

 

Unbelievable.

 

EDIT: Also just to say, the Gene Labell story is apparantly false. They were prety good friends, and once jokingly had a scuffle, which ended with him pressing Lee, Lee telling him to put him down, and Labell saying no, cause if he does Lee will kill him. Just to clear that up.

 

Here's the link: http://www.genelebell.com/stories.html

Edited February 14, 2006 by Jung

[Guest Mr Dragon]

a Edited December 17, 2006 by Mr Dragon

[Guest carlito is cool]

Ive never seen Lee beat anyone in a legitimate fight on the other hand ive seen Tyson beat 50 Heavyweight boxers 44 of those wins coming via ko. Imagine Tyson landing one on Brucey Boy it would more than likely lead to a lengthy stay in a hospital bed. The difference is Tyson could probably afford to eat a few of Lees blows, Lee could not afford to even take a glancing blow of Tyson or else it would be lights out.

 

So Lee has no fight record but can kick and is fast with a super cool coin trick so he beats arguably the most fearsome and destructive boxer that ever lived. I don't see it myself.

[Guest Jung]

Well as he's super fast, hows Tyson gonna hit him?

 

And Dragon I take it you didn't read the link I gave you, which says Labell didn't best Lee at all (in his own words), and actually mentions how Labell found him pretty darn tough.

 

And I really just don't understand your post at all.

 

You say speed, technique and size are all important. So the fact I mentioned Lee was incredibly quick and could perform every martial arts move with deadly accuracy, says nothing about speed and technique? Oh yes sorry Tyson's ability to only punch, and lack of speed means he's clearly got the advantage.

 

Majority of the facts I mentioned have absolutely nothing to do with his films. And if you want to say imdb is not reputable, then fair enough. But lets just say, being a Media student and having been told its like the bibliographical bible, its like the Wrestling Observer of movies and TV.

 

And again, you seem to belittle my facts, yet say Lee was a massive self promoter with a huge ego? Evidence please?

 

Cause in my eyes, having lots of schools which he personally taught is hardly self promoting is it? Its not like he talked the talk, but couldn't walk the walk? As I mentioned on various film sets people would challenge him to try and get famous. He's not mentioned these, others have, as shockingly enough being dead kinda negates that point.

 

But please next time actually read my post, as you seem to have ignored most of it.

 

I just don't understand this bias criticism of Lee. Apparantly Tyson can take a few blows of Lee's kicks, yet one Tyson punch kills Lee? I guess I'll have to ignore the time James "Buster" Douglas was it not, flattening Tyson in his prime with 1 punch no? Oh and that was after he'd been knocked down by Tyson also. And Douglas wasn't fantastic by any means. But sorry yes Tyson is indestructible, that seems to be the rose tinted point of this thread

[Guest carlito is cool]

Well as he's super fast, hows Tyson gonna hit him?

 

And Dragon I take it you didn't read the link I gave you, which says Labell didn't best Lee at all (in his own words), and actually mentions how Labell found him pretty darn tough.

 

And I really just don't understand your post at all.

 

You say speed, technique and size are all important. So the fact I mentioned Lee was incredibly quick and could perform every martial arts move with deadly accuracy, says nothing about speed and technique? Oh yes sorry Tyson's ability to only punch, and lack of speed means he's clearly got the advantage.

 

Majority of the facts I mentioned have absolutely nothing to do with his films. And if you want to say imdb is not reputable, then fair enough. But lets just say, being a Media student and having been told its like the bibliographical bible, its like the Wrestling Observer of movies and TV.

 

And again, you seem to belittle my facts, yet say Lee was a massive self promoter with a huge ego? Evidence please?

 

Cause in my eyes, having lots of schools which he personally taught is hardly self promoting is it? Its not like he talked the talk, but couldn't walk the walk? As I mentioned on various film sets people would challenge him to try and get famous. He's not mentioned these, others have, as shockingly enough being dead kinda negates that point.

 

But please next time actually read my post, as you seem to have ignored most of it.

 

I just don't understand this bias criticism of Lee. Apparantly Tyson can take a few blows of Lee's kicks, yet one Tyson punch kills Lee? I guess I'll have to ignore the time James "Buster" Douglas was it not, flattening Tyson in his prime with 1 punch no? Oh and that was after he'd been knocked down by Tyson also. And Douglas wasn't fantastic by any means. But sorry yes Tyson is indestructible, that seems to be the rose tinted point of this thread

 

Buster Douglas floored Tyson with one punch! He caught him with a devastating 6 punch combo. Plus that version of Tyson may well have lost to Lee. Im talking of a prime Mike that dedicated himself not a Tyson that went out on the piss in the weeks leading up to fights as was the case with Douglas.

 

You find me saying Tyson would destroy Bruce Lee absurd even though he has a proven track record of destroying world class fighters. Yet Lee who has no fighting record from what i have seen would destroy Tyson, add that to the size, strength and power disadvantage Lee would be at i dont see how you come to the conclusion that Lee would make minced meat of Tyson.

 

Bruce Lees superhuman feats are mainly myths in my eyes, if id seen him beat a world class fighter in a legitimate fight then that would mean something but i haven't. On the contray ive seen Tyson at his best and theres no myth he was a force of nature that the smaller, weaker and unproven Lee would have not been able to handle.

[Guest Mr Dragon]

a Edited December 17, 2006 by Mr Dragon