Who's tougher New Jack or Cena?

[lawrence619 13]

Oh yes, the "my brother" defense. We've all heard that before. :P :D

 

Next you'll be saying that it was "your brother" who has been saying that Cena would beat New Jack as well.

Yeah he agrees cena would rip new jack apart!

Also mr perfect i find it funny that you would vote who the hell cares, yet still take an interest in the topic and how i voted!!

[Guest Dave7g]

Yeah he agrees cena would rip new jack apart!

Also mr perfect i find it funny that you would vote who the hell cares, yet still take an interest in the topic and how i voted!!

 

I find it hillairious that I voted that this thread make my head hurt, when infact my head doesn't hurt at all, it's a work. It's called selling people!

[Guest Jung]

On the grounds that Cena's bigger, stronger, and in exceptional physical shape. Compared to new jack who is a broken down wreck!!!

What's your reasoning to new jack winning? Oh yeah i forgot he's loopy, so being crazy makes you tough now does it?

 

If New Jack can carry on going with broken ankles and possibly blindness following balcony falls, I'm pretty sure he'd get up after Cena punched him. Whether Cena would get up, after New Jack just went insane on him, is another story.

 

Size and condition would have nothing to do with it, in a fight involving 2 guys with no fight training. Its simply more about who can take more, and who will do whatever it takes to win.

[Guest Twig]

If New Jack can carry on going with broken ankles and possibly blindness following balcony falls, I'm pretty sure he'd get up after Cena punched him. Whether Cena would get up, after New Jack just went insane on him, is another story.

 

Size and condition would have nothing to do with it, in a fight involving 2 guys with no fight training. Its simply more about who can take more, and who will do whatever it takes to win.

 

Yeah that's what it comes down do. When will Cena give in, and will New Jack ever stay down?

[Guest carlito is cool]

I dont see this as being as 1 sided as most are assuming it would be. For one you can never say for certain that 1 guy will beat another because if Cena landed a good clean shot on Jacks jaw he would be out and wouldn't be getting back up no matter how crazy he was and vice versa. Cena has the physical advantages and New Jack is broken down. New Jack is a former bounty hunter but so is Dog and i wouldn't class him as a tough guy he is always hiding behind his wife or son for christ sake! (Dog the Bounty Hunter Bravo channel 124) New Jack can take nasty bumps in wrestling matches but that means nothing when you have a 270lb guy cracking his fist into your jaw or over the bridge of your nose if he connects properly you wont get up. I actually think Cena has a fair chance in this one if he needed to get dirty he could just as anyone could when put in a desperate situation. Just trying to even it out a little im not saying Cena would kick his ass because i don't no enough about either guy having legitimate 1 on 1 street fights but i would give him a fair shot.

[Guest MrFill]

Have you seen Cena throw a punch? A five year old girl throws a better punch.

[Guest carlito is cool]

Have you seen Cena throw a punch? A five year old girl throws a better punch.

 

Yep but all wrestlers look ridiculous when they throw punches they take wild lunging swings and stomp there feet. If wrestlers threw good clean punches without the foot stomping in a worked match it wouldn't work. For all we no Cena could be able to throw a very good 'real' punch but struggles throwing a worked one thus why he looks so awkward and like a big girl.

[Guest MrFill]

Watch Cena when he's doing the mounted turnbuckle punches - it looks like he's sucking the punch off of their head - there's faster movement away from his opponent than towards. If you watch the match backwards, it probably looks like a real punch. :P

 

Kurt's punches look quite good, even though he stamps, but the actual movement looks like he's "connecting".

Trips' punches look good too - it's all about the movement.

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

Watch Cena when he's doing the mounted turnbuckle punches - it looks like he's sucking the punch off of their head - there's faster movement away from his opponent than towards. If you watch the match backwards, it probably looks like a real punch. :P

 

Kurt's punches look quite good, even though he stamps, but the actual movement looks like he's "connecting".

Trips' punches look good too - it's all about the movement.

 

Does it really matter how pathetic Cena's worked punches look?

[Guest carlito is cool]

Watch Cena when he's doing the mounted turnbuckle punches - it looks like he's sucking the punch off of their head - there's faster movement away from his opponent than towards. If you watch the match backwards, it probably looks like a real punch. :P

 

Kurt's punches look quite good, even though he stamps, but the actual movement looks like he's "connecting".

Trips' punches look good too - it's all about the movement.

 

Your talking about worked punches though, punches that are meant to barely connect if he threw a proper punch he wouldn't have to worry about glancing his opponents head he could follow straight through with the punch and try to smash in someones skull. Even if his technique wasn't great and it may not be when you have his strength if he throws a clenched fist at you and wants to do damage he will.

 

Kurts takes his arm back real far and stomps hard when throwing his punches and they look good in a match. But im sure thats not how he naturally would throw a punch.

 

HHH's look more realistic they are shorter and with less of a stomp but again probably aren't what he finds natural.

[Guest Twig]

Have you seen Cena throw a punch? A five year old girl throws a better punch.

 

I don't know what you're thinking of, but he looks pretty stiff to me.

 

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[DC 536]

And what I'm saying is physical attributes don't mean **** in a REAL fight. How many times have we got to go over this?

Ok...so by your reasoning and logic.....someone who was three feet tall, weighed two stone and had no eyes and only one arm....could beat up say, Big Show or Giant Khali, simply because he (or she, let's not be sexist) is crazy?

 

I don't care how crazy you are, if you can be overpowered, you can be defeated..........

 

To be serious for a minute, I have beaten people bigger than me, and have never been defeated by someone smaller than me.....wether that is just being lucky, I don't know........but that will condradict both arguments on it's own.....

 

New Jack would beat Cena, and most of the roster as well.....and it is documented that Tracey Smothers is the only man New Jack has said would be able to take him......behind the scenes it's not always obvious who is the toughest (Jericho and William Regal both humiliating Goldberg are prime examples of this).

[Paul 584]

To prove size and strength are lesser attributes in a fight than skill and heart in the 2004 Pride Heavyweight Grand Prix Naoya Ogawa quickly took down and made Giant Silva tap out.

[Guest Thirteen]

Ok...so by your reasoning and logic.....someone who was three feet tall' date=' weighed two stone and had no eyes and only one arm....could beat up say, Big Show or Giant Khali, simply because he (or she, let's not be sexist) is crazy[/i']?

 

New Jack would beat Cena, and most of the roster as well.....and it is documented that Tracey Smothers is the only man New Jack has said would be able to take him......behind the scenes it's not always obvious who is the toughest (Jericho and William Regal both humiliating Goldberg are prime examples of this).

 

You know exactly what I meant.;)

[Guest carlito is cool]

To prove size and strength are lesser attributes in a fight than skill and heart in the 2004 Pride Heavyweight Grand Prix Naoya Ogawa quickly took down and made Giant Silva tap out.

 

But Giant Silva was way out of his depth he is a big guy but with no fighting ability at all. I think the saying goes 'a good big guy will always beat a good little guy' well maybe not always nothing is ever guaranteed but i agree with this way of thinking. You could have two equally talented boxers for instance 140lb Ricky Hatton and 220lb Mike Tyson both are incredibly tough at their weights but Tyson wins 10 times out of 10. If both guys have equal ability then you can not ignore size and strength factors.

 

If you have a world class 160lb fighter fighting a clueless 200lb guy the smaller man would win. If you had a 160lb fighter fighting a 200lb decent opponent it becomes a 50-50 fight. And if you have a the160lb guy in their against a world class 200lb guy the 200lb guy would likely destroy and cause serious injury to the smaller man, this is why Boxing especially and mma more so now are big on weight divisions.

 

As for New Jack vs Cena without ever seeing either of these two in a legitimate fight no-one can really say who would win, Cena is bigger,stronger, younger and in better condition but New Jack is supposedly 'crazy' yet if a guy the size of Cena landed a shot on the point of NJ's chin it really wouldn't matter how crazy he was he would be KOED. So you can't really say one way or the other id love to find out though!!!