Big Phil: Yay or nay?

[Guest Wolverine]

I'm actually glad that Big Phil didn't get the job' date=' for one he dosen't speak very good Engish! (which isn't a good start to be the Engish manager)[/quote']

 

As mentioned earlier, Scolari already speaks coherent English. He's also a very dedicated man and I'm sure that he'd have been speaking it fluently by the end of the year.

 

and secondly, ok he won the world cup with Brazil, but lets face it anyone would have won the cup with Brazil they were the best team there in 2002, I would have won it with them!

 

The best team in a tournament don't always win the competition. Recent trends should tell you that. Greece weren't exactly big favourites to win Euro 2004, nor were Liverpool fancied to win last year's Champions League. Big Phil did a fantasic job with Brazil. In fact, before Scolari took over Brazil, they were in real danger of not even qualifying for the World Cup. And in the bookies' eyes, Brazil weren't favourites to win the World Cup at the start of the tournament (France and Argentina were joint favourites).

 

Ad Portugal, they are one of the best teams in Europe so its no big suprise they went to the final on Euro 2004 under Scolari.

 

They're also perennial underachievers who had never reached a major final in their history. To get them to the final, beating Spain, England and Holland along the way, is quite an accomplishment.

 

I want to see an Engish manager have the England job, people say they don't have enough talent, that didn't stop Hollandand Germany putting their managers in place and those two had never managed a team in their lives before getting the national jobs! and I don't see them doing too badly

 

Firstly, Klinsmann is not doing very well. The media over there want him out and his results so far haven't been spectacular (although he's only managed Germany in friendlies and the Confederations Cup). Secondly, neither Klinsmann nor van Basten had any past managerial experience before they got the job. Therefore, no-one knew whether they would be good or bad. In England's case, all of the English candidates' have managed before. From this, I (and the vast majority of others) know that none of them are good enough to manage England yet.

 

Its simply a fact that managers from other counties don't have the same passion for England to do well, and why should they, its just a way to make to money for them, if England fail they simply move on and think oh well never mind not caring what the fans felt

 

Look at Kevin Keegan. He was the most passionate England manager you could ever wish to have and results under him were dreadful (for a country of England's standards). Sven, whilst not quite as passionate, has achieved far better results. There is proof that passion for the job shouldn't really come into it (even if it did, Big Phil looked animated enough when managing Portugal).

 

If you lot get Steve McClaren, I am going to die of laughter. :D

[Evil Gringo 279]

Actually reports show that due to the FA's approach and Phil's supposed intrest in it there where death threats made by the more extreme Portugese fans against his 14 year old son...

 

Can't really blame the man for turning down the offer after that can you?

[K.J 71]

The biggest mistake the FA made was saying they'd announce the successor before the World Cup. Firstly they put pressure on the English candidates trying to do a job at club level whilst also constantly being badgered by the press. If they wanted Big Phil then how on earth could they have announced that before the World Cup when he's managing another team there? This is what happens when you put a Scouser in charge, Barwick makes Sepp Blatter look professional, sack him now.

[Guest Boyo]

There are people around here (t'internetweb, not TWO...) who say only English people could fully understand the English game.

 

To that I say when Brazil went down to 10 men and STILL beat England, I think Big Phil understands the English game well enough, don't you?

 

Cheers!

[Guest Christof]

When was the last time Wales qualified for anything Boyo? :P

[Guest Boyo]

When was the last time Wales qualified for anything Boyo? :P

1958. :)

 

Cheers!