Meltzer - Thumbs up or Thumbs down?

[Guest tazz13]

well as far as just presenting facts he is pretty good minus the WM 3 attendance which he has completely wrong

 

his opinions are pretty crappy alot of the time and i find it hilarious that a "journalist" can't even type proper grammatical sentences

 

but whatever, i go there for the news and he usually has that spot on

[Joey Asbo 45]

I give Melzer a lot of respect, he knows every facet of the business, the facts, the storys, who did/said what. To have invested so much of his life doing what lots of us would kill to do, i have nothing but respect.

 

Its like the Vince McMahon rule, you dont always agree with him, but you gotta respect him.

[Guest Jung]

well as far as just presenting facts he is pretty good minus the WM 3 attendance which he has completely wrong

 

his opinions are pretty crappy alot of the time and i find it hilarious that a "journalist" can't even type proper grammatical sentences

 

but whatever, i go there for the news and he usually has that spot on

 

Don't tell me you still think there was 90,000 people at WM3?

 

And how can an opinion be pretty crappy? ITS AN OPINION!

[Guest DarkMatchJobber]

I can't stand all the praise Dave Meltzer gets,people think he's some sort of wrestling god and to be honest anyone who subscribes to his newsletter and shells out their hard earned cash should think twice because all the juiciest stories inevitably make it onto free news websites (and TWO).

 

I'm not saying he is not reliable because he is but for me Powerslam magazine and http://www.wrestleview.com are my favourite sources.

[Guest The Beltster]

Don't tell me you still think there was 90,000 people at WM3?

There were 93,173 actually. Sure, 78,000 might have paid, but there were 93,173 people in the building, anybody who understands the laws of physics can understand that.

 

As for Meltzer, he is alright. He knows his stuff 99% of the time and is nowhere even close to being as closeminded and bias as that ***** Wade Keller.

 

There have been a couple instances where Meltzer has been so far off that it wasnt even funny, yet he has stuck to his guns due to either ignorance or just simply not wanting to admit he was wrong, but then we all do this I'm sure.

[Guest Jung]

There were 93,173 actually. Sure, 78,000 might have paid, but there were 93,173 people in the building, anybody who understands the laws of physics can understand that.

 

As for Meltzer, he is alright. He knows his stuff 99% of the time and is nowhere even close to being as closeminded and bias as that ***** Wade Keller.

 

There have been a couple instances where Meltzer has been so far off that it wasnt even funny, yet he has stuck to his guns due to either ignorance or just simply not wanting to admit he was wrong, but then we all do this I'm sure.

 

So, out of curiosity, and I am actually just wondering, is this article not true?

 

EDIT: Btw I don't want to start this argument again. Plus I do think there is more than 78,000 thus Meltzer is wrong. But there's no way there was 93,000 in there unless some people had seats in the air.

 

http://www.wrestleview.com/news/1064694768.shtml

Edited June 6, 2007 by Jung

[Guest The Beltster]

The Silverdome max attendance for religious crusades is 90,000 as stated on the official arena website. Now, for a religious event, they fill all of the 80,000+ seats around the field for football and they fill the vast majority of the HUGE field barring a large stage. An American football field is easily big enough to hold 10,000 people. So, take away that stage and replace it with a tiny 20x20 ring and one half-field length entrance and you are still able to fit at least 10,000 people on that field. So, that makes up 90,000 before you take into consideration standing room at those old WWF shows and all the skyboxes and suits. Even in 93,000 isnt legit and they boosted it to get closer to the Pope, I'd say there were 85,000 - 90,000 people in there. 78,000 paid might very well be true, I've never argued that, but there were more than 78,000 people in there.

 

Here's the thing: if the building holds 80,000 in the stands alone, and the stands were full at WM3 ASWELL as the entire field, how can you possibly have 2000 less people than what they have at a football game? It makes zero sense.

Edited June 6, 2007 by The Beltster

[DC 536]

I think some people need to understand the difference between attendance and paid attendance.

[Guest Jung]

Thing is with Meltzer regarding WM3, he never said "there is exactly 80,000 whatever and not 90,000" did he? He said he didn't believe the 93,000 attendance, and was then told by a guy who promoted it that it was less than that and more likely between the 80-85k mark?

 

Thus its not like he's wrong is it? He asked someone what they reckon and they confirmed what he said, it wasn't 93,000. I mean if he said 78,000 paid then he may be right, but did he say 78k altogether? To my memory I don't think he did, he just argued that there wasn't 93,000 people there.

[Guest The Beltster]

I think some people need to understand the difference between attendance and paid attendance.

Indeed.

 

Thing is with Meltzer regarding WM3, he never said "there is exactly 80,000 whatever and not 90,000" did he? He said he didn't believe the 93,000 attendance, and was then told by a guy who promoted it that it was less than that and more likely between the 80-85k mark?

 

Thus its not like he's wrong is it? He asked someone what they reckon and they confirmed what he said, it wasn't 93,000. I mean if he said 78,000 paid then he may be right, but did he say 78k altogether? To my memory I don't think he did, he just argued that there wasn't 93,000 people there.

He was told there were 78,000 people and there is a group of people who believe, for no other reason than Meltzer brought the figure up and without using their own brain, that THAT is the legit number of people who were in the Silverdome.

 

And I'm not arguing what Meltzer is specifically saying, I dont know if he ever flat out said "There were 78,000 people in that building max!" or not. I'm arguing with people who say the attendance was 78,000 and thats that. Those people are, in my opinion, wrong and like I said before: if a building holds 80,000 for football, and the football stands AND the field is packed, then its impossible to have 78,000 people in there.

[Guest Slim Jim]

Then again there is a possibility that the 80,000 figure isn't accurate either. The Silverdome website may say that, but it also says that the record there is from WM with 93000+

[Guest The Beltster]

Then again there is a possibility that the 80,000 figure isn't accurate either. The Silverdome website may say that, but it also says that the record there is from WM with 93000+

The official website isnt going to state there are 80,000 available seats for NFL games if there arent, wouldnt happen. I doubt they would legally be allowed to advertise 80,000 seats if there werent that many available, on the other hand its not illegal to overstate an event attendance to make yourself sound like you hold a record.

 

Go to any arena website or Wikipedia and they will usually list their capacity. I'd put my money on every figure being legitimate.

 

Oh a sidenote, it sucks that they are likely going to tear the Silverdome down, this is a cool video though:

Edited June 6, 2007 by The Beltster

[Guest Colin]

Oh good, a new and exciting debate has arose!

[Guest Craig]

I think you're all wrong. I have the truth from a very reliable source that there were, in fact, 9,000,000 fans packed into the Silverdome. And they all watched Hulk Hogan powerbomb the 2,000 pound Andre, which caused a huge explosion and killed the giant. And my source wouldn't lie, brother.

[Guest Danny Styles]

I think you're all wrong. I have the truth from a very reliable source that there were, in fact, 9,000,000 fans packed into the Silverdome. And they all watched Hulk Hogan powerbomb the 2,000 pound Andre, which caused a huge explosion and killed the giant. And my source wouldn't lie, brother.

 

 

2,023 pounds actually, if you are gonna state the facts, do it right!