Comments That Don't Require Their Own Thread 2007

[Guest Dave7g]

If it makes anyone feel better, John Cena is apparently taking a leave of absense later on in the year. I'm fine with that - if anyone deserves it, it's him. The guy has worked far too hard over the last two years. He deserves a break.

 

Yes, we all need a break.

[Guest SuperKick Kid]

If it makes anyone feel better, John Cena is apparently taking a leave of absense later on in the year. I'm fine with that - if anyone deserves it, it's him. The guy has worked far too hard over the last two years. He deserves a break.

 

Hopefully that leads to a Shawn Michaels WWE Title Reign :)

[Guest Rog]

Hardcore Homecoming is so crap! Not a single good match on the show.

 

It got by on the ECW nostalgia bandwagon which was at its peak in 2005. The card is great on paper though. On second thoughts, it has one of Raven/Sandmans best encounters.

[Guest The Great Ahmar]

It got by on the ECW nostalgia bandwagon which was at its peak in 2005. The card is great on paper though. On second thoughts, it has one of Raven/Sandmans best encounters.

 

Granted its ok 9Raven V Sandman) if you don't have to sit through the tripe before it!

[TPIB 62]

Well, I was going to quote one particular person in this post, but I couldn't decide on one, so I'll just say that my post pertains to the discussion of wrestling fans that started with Jack and went down for about 5 posts or so.

 

Some wrestling fans (American ones, of course, since I haven't had much experience with U.K. fans) are just so stupid (granted, some are very smart and wise). Something that bugs me is pretty much any interview WWE.com has done with fans hyping a PPV or whatever. They act like big idiots. You'll see a rare few who are actually genuine and not a "puppet", but WWE (and maybe TNA, I don't know) seem to focus on the dumbest fans they can. Now, I'm not saying it's dumb to have your favorite wrestlers or that it's dumb to be a fan of a face, but when you say things like (for example), "Cena is the best champion ever, no one can beat him" (I'll pass up the oppurtunity to point out how stupid the "You Can't See Me" deal is) or they say things that really don't make any sense. Like when fans will say "so-and-so" will win because he/she's "the whatever". For example, if a fan was asked what they thought about Batista, they would say something like, "Batista can beat anybody, because he's The Animal". Granted, alot of the fans who say things of the sort are "impressionable minds".

 

While I'm on the subject/rambling session of WWE, the fans, and the such, is anyone else a little "bothered" by the latest WWE Shop commercial? It's such a stupid idea. I'm talking about the one that says things like, "You can't be the champ, but this shirt will give you American Made Muscle" or "You can't beat The Deadman, but this shirt will make you a phenom". That's just dumb advertising. Suggesting that wearing a t-shirt will make you a "phenom" or give you "American made muscle" is not only stupid, but it's got to befuddle the wrestlers as well (whether they admit it or not). No matter what is said about wrestlers, you can't deny that they work hard at what they do and as the "Don't Do This At Home" PSA's say, "they have a lifetime of experience". So to say that wearing a shirt makes you as good as the Undertaker or as charismatic (retch) as Cena seems a little degrading in a way.

 

I'm pretty much jumping around and rambling anyways, so why not go ahead with this?

 

Why can't the WWE make up their mind on what to call two particular ECW superstars (and Originals)? That, of course, being Nunzio and Stevie Richards. First, they called him Nunzio on SmackDown!, then when ECW was brought up as a third brand, they called him Little Guido, then they decided to incorporate his real last name and call him Little Guido Maritato, and finally they went back to calling him Nunzio. What's the deal? Why is it so complicated to settle on a name for a jobber? Then there's Stevie Richards. While his name has remained fairly constant, there's always a contrast somewhere. At first when he went to the new ECW, he continued to be called Steven Richards, but was often referred to as Stevie Richards. Then his name started being announced as Stevie Richards, however, his name plate that appears on screen still reads Steven Richards. To me, the era of 'Steven' ended with the Right to Censor.

 

It just occured to me as I was typing that last paragraph, but did anyone else miss not seeing The Godfather make an appearance on what was to be a "Mr. McMahon Memorial"? Obviously, there were more important things going on at the time, but what I'm saying is, I hope WWE finds a spot to bring him in for an appearance. The character is so entertaining to me.

 

Now I've talked about the WWE pretty much this whole post (not to mention about 97% of my other posts and threads), but something regarding TNA kind of puzzled me that I read the other day. I read that TNA is "allegedely" meeting with FOX to put a secondary show (to iMPACT!) on the network. That's all well and good, but it seems backwards to me. I mean, FOX is a bigger network than Spike TV (FOX is one of the "big ones" in the TV channel circuit with networks like NBC, CBS, ABC, etc.), so wouldn't it make sense for TNA to try and flip the deal and use the oppurtunity to have iMPACT! be on FOX and then spring for a secondary show on a smaller network (of course, it probably wouldn't be Spike)? Possibly their old channel at FSN? Just a thought.

 

I swear this is my last gripe for this post. It's a gripe that has bothered me for sometime and that is the USA Network. If WWE RAW (and other programs that are run like AM RAW or their SNME specials on NBC) are such a big ratings draw for USA, why does USA always postpone RAW for stuff that no one cares about? Like tennis and stupid dog shows. This just in USA, there's channels for this crap. Dog shows can be on Animal Planet and tennis can be on ESPN or one of their other networks. I might understand if USA postponed RAW for a "good" reason, like if there was a breaking news story or if the president was giving a speech or something (even though that takes up about a dozen channels as it is). I just never quite understood why these things took such precedence over the big draw in RAW (I didn't rhyme intentionally).

[Guest Twig]

Then there's Stevie Richards. While his name has remained fairly constant, there's always a contrast somewhere. At first when he went to the new ECW, he continued to be called Steven Richards, but was often referred to as Stevie Richards. Then his name started being announced as Stevie Richards, however, his name plate that appears on screen still reads Steven Richards. To me, the era of 'Steven' ended with the Right to Censor.

Yeah, but he'll always be Big Stevie Cool to me. :good222:

 

why does USA always postpone RAW for stuff that no one cares about? Like tennis and stupid dog shows. This just in USA, there's channels for this crap. Dog shows can be on Animal Planet and tennis can be on ESPN or one of their other networks.

I think USA has to have some kind of preexisting contract with all the big tennis tournaments and dog shows, because you're right. If ratings is the only thing to go by, Raw is more important. I think it may also be an executive decision from a high level to keep the entire network a little classier.

[Guest Da Showstoppa]

Hopefully that leads to a Shawn Michaels WWE Title Reign :)

 

Unlikely because Shawn won't be active until November, and by then the Triple H V Randy Orton feud will have kicked off (and if Cena's out then I reckon it'll be for the title too) Unless they're going to do the usual "Champion is attacked and the title is vacated" story that they do everytime someone needs a month or two off.

 

I'd bet Lashley will be in line for a title shot too, As much as I like HBK, I don't see his being in the wwe title mix particulary useful from a story perspective. Unless of course they wheel out the Elimination chamber again.

 

Mike

[Guest big smithers]

Unlikely because Shawn won't be active until November, and by then the Triple H V Randy Orton feud will have kicked off (and if Cena's out then I reckon it'll be for the title too) Unless they're going to do the usual "Champion is attacked and the title is vacated" story that they do everytime someone needs a month or two off.

 

I'd bet Lashley will be in line for a title shot too, As much as I like HBK, I don't see his being in the wwe title mix particulary useful from a story perspective. Unless of course they wheel out the Elimination chamber again.

 

Mike

 

I totally agree with you concerning the Orton/HHH feud, I see Orton winning the belt at Summerslam and then going on to face Tripper at Survivor's or most likely at Wrestlemania 24 just as long as he can keep his nose clean between now and then.

Cena's had the title for some 280 days or more which has brought some credability back to the title, something which many fans on this forum were calling for not so long ago. When Cena does lose the belt it has to be retired to Cena's mantleplace for good, Just as the smoking skull belt got retired when it was at the end of it's lifespan. I'd love to see the winged eagle design back in use as it appears to be more credible than belts specially made for a particular wrestler. So, for me Orton seems the logical choice to take the belt off Cena seen as he is the top heel on Raw at this moment. I'm not a huge Orton fan but anyone apart from Cena holding the gold is a good thing for me. After his three long title runs i think it's a good case to be argued that Cena doesn't need the title anymore.

[Omega 354]

Run ins, I'm really sick and tired of seeing all over every wrestling show. There must be more ways of ending matches than this! Also WWE and letting people promo just doesn't seem to happnen anymore. Matches and rpe-taped vide edited montages seem to be the only way to put things over these days. Is it just that there is no mic talent left in the WWE anymore? Who is coaching thses guys about this fundemental side of the buisness? Where's the Edge andchristian type sketches or the big Rock-esque promo's or even the odd pre-taped promo to camera you used to see?

[Guest Bluestiger99]

You know really irks me? No one just fueds over the belt because they want it anymore. Its always over something stupid, and a if someone is wearing the belt its an added bonus. Its never just "I want the belt, and I'll destroy you in order to get it."

[Guest Al Stevens]

Run ins, I'm really sick and tired of seeing all over every wrestling show. There must be more ways of ending matches than this! Also WWE and letting people promo just doesn't seem to happnen anymore. Matches and rpe-taped vide edited montages seem to be the only way to put things over these days. Is it just that there is no mic talent left in the WWE anymore? Who is coaching thses guys about this fundemental side of the buisness? Where's the Edge andchristian type sketches or the big Rock-esque promo's or even the odd pre-taped promo to camera you used to see?

 

To answer that one, i think alot of people (not the fans) think it's better to do stuff pre taped and then hope that it works out in the past. However i think thats whats letting the current wrestling scene down loads of late.

 

Also Dante the whole "I will take the belt and blah blah blah" stuff came in via Vince Russo and we all know what a train wreck of a booker he is so of course the whole point of going for a championship belt to prove your the best is no longer a selling factor

[Guest Boyo]

Why can't people accept that wrestling fans have evolved over the years, due to the destruction of kayfabe?

 

For crying out loud!

 

I read Jack's post about how American and British fans seem intent on out-smarting eachother and the talent by cheering/booing/being ironic/being smart at inoppertune times.

 

Just watch Summerslam 2004 in Toronto for an example of terrible, terrible fans like this.

 

But in the same token, we as smart fans ourselves have to accept that fans are not marks any more. That wrestling is (largely) not kayfabed any more, and if that happens then of course the noises coming from the crowd are going to react to the lack of kayfabe.

 

You can't have it both ways.

 

Great thread DC :xyx

 

Cheers!

[wyndorf 389]

You know really irks me? No one just fueds over the belt because they want it anymore. Its always over something stupid, and a if someone is wearing the belt its an added bonus. Its never just "I want the belt, and I'll destroy you in order to get it."

 

Erm....Cena/Triple H, Cena/Edge, Cena/Michaels, Edge/Batista, Batista/Undertaker....

[Nimf 324]

Why can't people accept that wrestling fans have evolved over the years, due to the destruction of kayfabe?

 

For crying out loud!

 

I read Jack's post about how American and British fans seem intent on out-smarting eachother and the talent by cheering/booing/being ironic/being smart at inoppertune times.

 

Just watch Summerslam 2004 in Toronto for an example of terrible, terrible fans like this.

 

But in the same token, we as smart fans ourselves have to accept that fans are not marks any more. That wrestling is (largely) not kayfabed any more, and if that happens then of course the noises coming from the crowd are going to react to the lack of kayfabe.

 

You can't have it both ways.

 

Great thread DC :xyx

 

Cheers!

Wrong Draven...:P

[Dead Crow 370]

Great thread DC :xyx

Er.. thanks?