Comments That Don't Require Their Own Thread 2007

[Guest Twig]

WrestleMania 22

WWE Championship: John Cena © Vs. Triple H

 

I'll give the devil his due on this one, Cena had a good entrance for WM22 (not to say that Trips didn't have a good one). This was one of the more enjoyable matches in Cena's career. The Chicago fans completely crapped on Cena, which I found great. It even garnered Triple H to play to the crowd at one point. However, the match ended with the horrific STF-U again.

 

Yeah, nlow that you mention it I kinda think WWE planned to use that weak-sauce hype vid try and get him heel heat with the local crowd. Cuz frankly, when they compared a slower than molasses on a cold tin roof "freestyle" rapper in John Cena to the World's greatest and most notorious gangsta Al Capone, they really should've expected an even worse reception.

Edited July 5, 2007 by Twig

[Guest The Beltster]

I also see some Hogan in him, but I can forgive him for that.

What do you expect, the guy is a Hogan uber mark. I can see certain similarities to Hogan with certain things he does, he just doesnt do them as well, he is rough around the edges.

 

Cena does something way more important than backflips, takedowns and all that crap: he works people. There is nobody better than that in the history of wrestling than Hogan as has been proven for over 25 years, Cena is the closest guy to being able to work a crowd to Hogan, without question.

 

Flair marks and Angle marks can scream about workrate all they like, doesnt mean jackshit. If you can work people, your money.

 

To be honest DraVen, I'm not so sure why you have such a severe hatred for Hogan. He is what Cena is being pattered on, he's just much better. :)

[Guest Twig]

If you can work people, you're money.

 

You make it sound so dirty. :P And you certainly can't deny the lucritivity of Cena & Hogan, but it's all about what you like to see. Watching a man guide a big crowd of screaming people around is cool, but I mark for workrate (among other things) myself

Edited July 5, 2007 by Twig

[Guest The Beltster]

You make it sound so dirty. And you certainly can't deny the lucritivity of Cena & Hogan, but it's all about what you like to see. Watching a man guide a big crowd of screaming people around is cool, but I mark for workrate (among other things) myself

Oh no doubt man, I completely agree, its all personal preference. My point is, the guys who can work the fans are always the most successful, while the best wrestlers are usually favoured by smaller groups of fans.

[Murph 93]

TNA's new Sting action figure is really awesome. There's a video of it on the website, it's really cool.

[Ryan 188]

TNA's new Sting action figure is really awesome. There's a video of it on the website, it's really cool.

 

:lol

 

Yeh ok.

[Murph 93]

You laugh, but you know you're buying it right now...

[DC 536]

:lol

 

Yeh ok.

And what's wrong with collectables?

[Guest Christof]

Nothing, they're great for swapsies for football cards, pogs, stickers etc, great fun in the playground.

[Ryan 188]

And what's wrong with collectables?

 

There a waste of money.

[DC 536]

There a waste of money.

Where's a waste of money?*

 

And how can something that increases in value the longer you actually have it be considered a waste of money? I'm sure you spend money on things that others would consider a waste of money too, but to yourself that isn't the case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*This is an attempt at a joke response using the rich and wonderful variants of the English language (in this case "there" and "they're") as a punchline. Blame your teacher (not Matt Striker) if you cannot grasp its linguistic connotations.

Edited July 5, 2007 by DC

[Guest the HiTman]

There a waste of money.

 

Ask anyone who has a full set of original Star Wars figures boxed if they were a waste of money. :xyx

[Guest The Beltster]

No more a waste of money than DVD's, CD's, games, magazines or anything else that isnt a necessity. And dont get me started on fags and booze, THATS a legit waste of money.

[Guest Dave7g]

Absolutely. I consider his feud with Angle to be the worst he ever had because Angle was simply.. well... poor. For a guy so amazing and diverse, he sure as hell couldn't connect with Cena like Michaels, HHH, Jericho, Umaga and Edge could. Hell, in 2002, Angle was better than all of those guys. In 2007, the guy is worthless garbage that lost his allure. Cena, on the other hand, has gone on to become a big star with a a long list of good matches and, as Beltmark said, main event matches that actually feel like a main event under his belt.

 

As for the "turds", since WM21, I'd consider his matches with Angle to be verging on turds but not quiet there (compared to his other matches), the 3-way with Booker and Big Show to be meh (he's not a miracle worker), and his match with Khali to be ok verging on good, but nothing deserving of a main event spot. Pretty much everything else has been great. His matches with Edge were all fine, his Umaga matches were outstanding, his match with Michaels was good, the HHH match was incredible, the RVD match was good due to Cena carrying Van Dam and working the crowd, the Jericho matches were great, and the 3/4-ways have all been booked perfectly.

 

Which is another thing - WWE do REALLY good multi-man matches. Cyber Sunday was the only real stinker I can remember to be honest, main event wise.

 

Ao it's Angle's fault the matches weren't great right, because Cena carries everyone in his matches, including as you say RVD?

 

I'm afraid I can't take you seriously anymore.

[DC 536]

Ao it's Angle's fault the matches weren't great right, because Cena carries everyone in his matches, including as you say RVD?

I'm sure DraVen will be along in a minute, but I'll jump in for now. Nowhere in that post you quoted does it say that Cena carried everyone. In fact, it's only RVD who's mentioned in that category.

 

If many different people can have a good-to-great match except Angle, who do you think is the weak link?

 

Cena v HBK = Good

Cena v JBL (I Quit) = Good

Cena v HHH = Good

Cena v Jericho = Good

Cena v Umaga = Good

Cena v Johnny Nitro = Good

 

 

Cena v Angle = Bad

 

Now if all of those listed can have a good match (or better) with Cena, but Angle can't, doesn't that mean Angle is the one who is at fault (for lack of a better term)? I mean, if Angle was as good as he thinks he is, then surely he can get a better match out of John Cena that Umaga, JBL and Nitro?

 

I'm afraid I can't take you seriously anymore.

Some of your opinions on certain things put you in the same category now and again.