Posted December 19, 201310 yr It's December, List Season is upon us again. 1. Kazuchika Okada 2. Hiroshi Tanahashi 3. Daniel Bryan 4. Shinsuke Nakamura 5. Tomohiro Ishii 6. Randy Orton 7. CM Punk 8. Prince Devitt 9. Katsuyori Shibata 10. Kota Ibushi 11. Austin Aries 12. Shingo Takagi 13. Hirooki Goto 14. Bully Ray 15. Ricochet 16. Kurt Angle 17. Akira Tozawa 18. Masato Yoshino 19. CIMA 20. Seth Rollins 21. Minoru Suzuki 22. Tetsuya Naito 23. Naruki Doi 24. Bobby Roode 25. Matt Jackson 26. Nick Jackson 27. Kevin Steen 28. Dean Ambrose 29. Masato Tanaka 30. Antonio Cesaro 31. AJ Styles 32. Roman Reigns 33. Yuji Nagata 34. BxB Hulk 35. KENTA 36. Karl Anderson 37. Dolph Ziggler 38. Jeff Hardy 39. Alberto Del Rio 40. Michael Elgin 41. Brock Lesnar 42. Adam Cole 43. Davey Richards 44. Kenny Omega 45. Kris Travis 46. Jay Briscoe 47. El Ligero 48. Christopher Daniels 49. Sami Zayn 50. Cody Rhodes Let me first state the obvious. Randy Orton and CM Punk above all of the Shield and Cesaro. No Shield members in the top 19. Cesaro at THIRTY. Cody Rhodes scrapes in, but no Goldust. F*ckin' LOL. Kudos to them for throwing Brock on there though.
December 19, 201310 yr Ishii at five is because he has had three good matches, two in the G-1, against top drawer opponents. For PS to put him there is insane to me. Okada has been all types of great and Tanahashi has been from a match quality standpoint as well but it seems the magazine has pretty much given up on US Wrestling. For some many DG wrestlers to be infesting the top 50 and for Takagi to be 12 just means they have looked at win/loss record in the promotion for the year and stuck who has the main title at the highest ranked of them all. For the record Tozawa has been better then Takagi this year in terms of performances. Even though Okada has done well, I'd still say Bryan should be number 1, it has been an absolute breakthrough year for him in fan recognition and a stellar one in match quality. His Summerslam match with Cena was a big credit to both men and the fact that Cena, Cesaro and Ambrose are not ahead of the likes of Goto, CIMA and Angle after their years is just unthinkable to me. The US part of the list is wrong and so is the Puro - no wonder you can't find this magazine anywhere anymore.
December 19, 201310 yr You can get it from Tesco I buy it every month. Looking forward to reading this apparently they stated in the last magazine that this months is entirely devoted to profiles etc. of the top 50. I get it tonight.
December 19, 201310 yr I have a standard Tesco and a Tesco Extra near me and neither stock it. Must be a regional sales thing, Tesco can be like that. I still stand by my point thought that list is wrong as will no doubt be the PWI500 and trying to do lists like these in this sport are stupid. So much is down to personal opinion in this sport that there will never be agreement or a definitive list.
December 19, 201310 yr Oh I agree with the list being wrong, the amount of time i spent swearing at last years list was ridiculous until i tried to do my list and got stick wanting to put 60 names in a top 50 list then i gave up and realised not everyone will be happy but I do agree it could be better. I no longer watch Puro as no idea where to get it from so can't comment on the Japenese stars I now only know a few but why KENTA is so low i don't know. I guess when i read the mag I will see their reasons.
December 19, 201310 yr Randy at six surprises me the most. Is this list based just on the last two or three weeks?
December 19, 201310 yr It is meant to be the year but it does tend to place people higher depending on the last few months.
December 19, 201310 yr Yeah, although ironically enough, Randy had been quietly good for most of the year, and then kind of bombed when put on top these last few months. He has a decent sized list of good matches, but to put him above all of the WWE guys who are ranked below him, not to mention everyone else not even on the radar like, oh, I don't know, Gold God damn Dust and John Cena (though Cena actually making a PS list would be more surprising at this point)...ridiculous. Orton shouldn't be sniffing a Top 10 for WWE when so many dudes have been this good all year.
December 19, 201310 yr I am surprised that none of the Shield guys are in this. They haven't dissapointed when I have seen them. Even in singles action they look good, especially Ambrose.
December 19, 201310 yr I think the list suffers from the people who read this mag and to some exent people on this site don't have that a wide range of wrestling viewing and are mainly WWE watchers, i think that is far to say therefore when lists appear with people on it that people haven't heard about it makes people think the lists are crap, the list is cleary with a wider range of viewing than most people watch
December 19, 201310 yr I think the list suffers from the people who read this mag and to some exent people on this site don't have that a wide range of wrestling viewing and are mainly WWE watchers, i think that is far to say therefore when lists appear with people on it that people haven't heard about it makes people think the lists are crap, the list is cleary with a wider range of viewing than most people watch I don't think this is fair at all. Firstly, not I nor anyone else in the thread besides Gringo commented on the Japanese or any non-WWE/TNA guys. The comparison is between the various WWE guys on the list, and those that didn't make it. My complaint isn't that there should be more WWE guys, but that the WWE guys that appear are in the wrong order. Secondly, Gringo DID address the rest of the world and gave pretty well thought out reasons why the selections and ordering for those guys was pretty off base. So I have no idea where you're coming from with that. Not to mention the irony given the shallowness of Martin and the PS crew's wrestling watching and preferences, but that's another story.
December 19, 201310 yr Maybe I was thinking of reasons why these lists are aways hated, after all they pointless you could put 50 wrestlers down and it would be equally as valid
December 19, 201310 yr no wonder you can't find this magazine anywhere anymore.There's loads of shops in Bangor that stock it. The three local newsagents as well as WH Smiths, Tesco, Asda and Morrisons all have it on sale. I think the list is, as people have said, accurate enough with the guys mentioned, but not in the order they are in. Also, I'm not happy that they ditched the previous format of the PS50 and just have it as a straight article now.
December 20, 201310 yr Oh I agree with the list being wrong, the amount of time i spent swearing at last years list was ridiculous until i tried to do my list and got stick wanting to put 60 names in a top 50 list then i gave up and realised not everyone will be happy but I do agree it could be better. I no longer watch Puro as no idea where to get it from so can't comment on the Japenese stars I now only know a few but why KENTA is so low i don't know. I guess when i read the mag I will see their reasons. Big NJPW shows like the final shows of tours that include their title matches are usually orderable as a streamable PPV from their website now. I tend to just wait around two days after a big show and hit up YouTube like a motherlicker. A lovely gentleman posted each show of the G-1 Climax on there which was awesome. Seriously you can find ANYTHING on YouTube. I used to read Powerslam every month, but stopped when every month they would spend all their time hating on HHH but seemed to always have him on the cover. Then like I said, the only place I ended up being able to pick it up around here was the WH Smith in Rochdale, the one in the Victoria Train Station in Manchester or a little pokey newsagent near Manchester Town Hall. You'd think distribution and readership would be higher in the Manchester area given the fact that loads of Raw's and Smackdown's get filmed at the M.E.N. - sorry, the Phones 4U Arena - these days.
December 20, 201310 yr Because Powerslam. When it comes to Cena they're stuck in about 2005 and haven't moved. I didn't expect him to be on it, he never is.
It's December, List Season is upon us again.
1. Kazuchika Okada
2. Hiroshi Tanahashi
3. Daniel Bryan
4. Shinsuke Nakamura
5. Tomohiro Ishii
6. Randy Orton
7. CM Punk
8. Prince Devitt
9. Katsuyori Shibata
10. Kota Ibushi
11. Austin Aries
12. Shingo Takagi
13. Hirooki Goto
14. Bully Ray
15. Ricochet
16. Kurt Angle
17. Akira Tozawa
18. Masato Yoshino
19. CIMA
20. Seth Rollins
21. Minoru Suzuki
22. Tetsuya Naito
23. Naruki Doi
24. Bobby Roode
25. Matt Jackson
26. Nick Jackson
27. Kevin Steen
28. Dean Ambrose
29. Masato Tanaka
30. Antonio Cesaro
31. AJ Styles
32. Roman Reigns
33. Yuji Nagata
34. BxB Hulk
35. KENTA
36. Karl Anderson
37. Dolph Ziggler
38. Jeff Hardy
39. Alberto Del Rio
40. Michael Elgin
41. Brock Lesnar
42. Adam Cole
43. Davey Richards
44. Kenny Omega
45. Kris Travis
46. Jay Briscoe
47. El Ligero
48. Christopher Daniels
49. Sami Zayn
50. Cody Rhodes
Let me first state the obvious.
Randy Orton and CM Punk above all of the Shield and Cesaro.
No Shield members in the top 19.
Cesaro at THIRTY.
Cody Rhodes scrapes in, but no Goldust.
F*ckin' LOL.
Kudos to them for throwing Brock on there though.