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Do any of you folks think that Takers retirement has had a detrimental effect on Vince's mental state? With recent events seeing him turning up late for Raw andi rewriting things all the time, do you think this has affected him deeper than we think?

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So for you that's a guarandamntee? I respectfully disagree, and yeah Vince does like the Kozlov look.:good222:

Cool. In general men have acted this way. Ghandi and the others have been exceptions, not the rule. Hence a generalisation.

Anything is possible in the WWE dude. I think anyone can get over given the time and storylines, for me Edge was never going to be a main eventer, even though he was a good all rounder, he just didn't have the right stuff for me, but then over time and with the correct storylines you forget about the Edge who reeked of awesomeness and see the Rated R Edge, I agree Santino is being jobbed out and is boring in the ring, but that doesn't mean he can't make it. Vladimir Kozlov made it and he is boring in the ring. Santino has as much chance as anyone given the right push and handling it well too. Never say never.

History says I'm not. Ghandi was a pacifist, what does he have to do with this? I don't mind destruction for a constructive reason. People have always done things to suit their own ends, always. Rewritten biblical texts, stashed money away, stolen, murdered, reneged, deceived and buried others all to make themselves look and feel better, all for this mythical power, which they beleive will save them from actually having to live with those they see as beneath them or less than them, or weaker easier prey. Those they see as fools and clowns, who are to be, mocked and held up for ridicule, but it is merely their own fear of being the one being mocked that leads them to act in such a way, fear of not being "normal". If a member of your family was being mocked for their differences you would see the truth as it appears before you, but when you see the world through inured eyes it is difficult to see what happens, as long as you are warm and safe what does it matter? It matters if the warm safe place is up to your neck in shit. People are responsible for many great and wonderous achievements, beautiful creations, fantastic visions and magnificent moments, but they are also on the other hand vile, insidious, lying,two faced, backstabbing cowards, who follow what they are told, who blindly kill for the chance to be "normal". So excuse me while I find humour in your replies.:good222:

Ok the Rock wasn't the best example, but what about Eddie Guerrero? Yeah ok he had his dark moments in WCW, but then he came in to WWE and eventually became a comedy character of sorts who then went on to beat the invincible Brock Lesnar, Eddie then became a main event player. The only reason we haven't seen a dark side to Santino is because he hasn't had enough tv exposure. Give him time and storylines and he'll make it. Imagine Santino beating Randy Orton next week on RAW and not fluking it either.

The Rock managed to combine both aspects though people, I'm not saying he is as talented but it has been done. Also Dra, Punk may rub folks up the wrong way as RVD did before him, but RVD still had a pretty good WWE run for all his recklessness. I think Santino can be taken seriously if he beats someone serious. A lot of the smaller guys are suffering in WWE presently, but you never know. Now as well with WWE running a more family oriented business, a few surprising stars my come to the fore.

Santino Marella is an excellent wrestler, not just a comedy act, he will be a big star given the right push. Swagger impresses me a hell of a lot, he just has the ability and the nous. Morrison will always be around the top, he needs to add mass though to be seen as a serious contender, Miz is another Road Dogg for me. CM Punk will also be a company man, so will do anything asked of him with a smile and will have a good shot in WWE. The others up to now don't stand out in my mind enough.

:good222: For me historically, men have only done things in pursuit of power. When they learn to not love power but understand the power of love, peace on Earth shall prevail, until then show me how you do something and let me reproduce it, then I may beleive it.:greets4:

I don't always agree with Corny but I respect his views due to the fact the guy has been around the business for decades and has seen pretty much all there is to see about the modern business, he also is a great student of wrestling and generally when he speaks he makes a lot of sense, because he really truly loves the business, probably more than the mercenaries he abhors. :good222:

Is'nt he Vince's illegitimate........no no no Hornswoggle that's right.

To say you miss the point is futile. Unless you are there, unless you do the experiments, unless you perform and theorise your own set of scientific results, then you have no idea. How do you know and I mean truly know, that scientists who need to stay in a job who need to make mortgage payments who need to eat aren't telling you the sky is made of diamonds and you are swallowing it peice by peice. You beleive science to be truth, but it is merely one of many truths. Man has a way of rationalising his own understandings of the world, but maybe the fact that he is trying to experiment on things changes the things he is experimenting on and in turn that gives the results he is looking for. Quantum physics alters the perceptions and the normality. As for the Einstein cliche, it's a cliche because like all cliches it is true. It gets old because it is what it is.:xyx You will now endevour to change my already made up mind, my mind will not accept things because people say I should or because people say there is no other way, there are always other ways, have I found them all yet? No, will I? who knows, but I will not accept that science knows all for a start it is arrogant and flawed, because people are fallible, they make mistakes, they do and say things which calls into question their integrity.:xyx Also, any news on the Scole Experiments?? ARE maybe flawed, but that proves my point about experimentation and human integrity.

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