Guest SavageFury Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Kenzo Suzuki has made his debut in the WWE finally. What are your thoughts on him? Is he going to fail in the WWE, is he headed for greatness or could you care less about what he does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Greenberg Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Couldn't care less. Just another Japanese stereotype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 No he isnt. If you are thinking of the Hirohito thing well WWE have dropped that and I dont think he has any other stereotype. I think he will be OK for the time but soon he will be fighting Cruiserweights on Velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MachoMat Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Couldn't care less. Just another Japanese stereotype I hope thats wrong, but knowing Vince, its probably correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Greenberg Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 No he isnt. If you are thinking of the Hirohito thing well WWE have dropped that and I dont think he has any other stereotype. I think he will be OK for the time but soon he will be fighting Cruiserweights on Velocity. Yes it is, when have they ever brought in a japanese man and just labelled him as normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr.R_Wolverine Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I really don't give a damn what's going on with this guy. His debut match was boring, and soon enough, hes gonna be on Velocity soon with the rest of the B-Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Yes it is' date=' when have they ever brought in a japanese man and just labelled him as normal?[/quote'] That doesnt matter, the fact is he hasnt got a gimmick or whatever yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Greenberg Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 That doesnt matter' date=' the fact is he hasnt got a gimmick or whatever yet[/quote'] His gimmick is that of a japanese emperor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 His gimmick is that of a japanese emperor Come on, you call that a serious and proper gimmick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARTIN316V1 Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I agree with Jackbibby, Kenzo Suzuki is ok for now but soon enough he will be squashing the likes of Shannon Moore, Orlando Jordan and Paul London on Velocity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guldand Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Originally Posted by jackbibby Come on, you call that a serious and proper gimmick? no I would call that a crapy gimmick, but that is his gimmick. and that is the gimmick he is going to have, untill he quits and go back to japan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Gringo Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Fact is in Japan he was nothing special and was pushed due to his size and background (he was a former international rugby player) and the only reason he's here is cos he's desperate for money due to the fact that the company he worked for fell through and he burned his bridges with New Japan when he left there... It's just like the old days when they push forward a big heel threat with a gimmick for Hogan to knock over and then they'd do nothing much and end up leaving a shell of what they were... When Eddie's done with JBL he'll knock over Kenzo and then whoevers next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I really like his finisher, it looks really brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Christof Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 it would be nice to see him do something, but i must say i found him highly boring on samckdown for his debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boyo Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 He's clearly been to the "William Regal School of Face-Pulling". Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Gringo Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 For those out on Saturday and therefore missed Smackdown... (a few gasps from those who now believe me to be a non-fan)... What did he use as his finisher... In Japan it was a version of the Shining Wizard, Spear or a backdrop suplex hold... What have the yankies given him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boyo Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Suzuki's finisher is what's best described as a face-shove-slam. Bit like a Rock Bottom. He puts his right hand over your face, maybe sneaking a finger up your nose (I don't know), puts his left arm under your arm pit and Rock Bottoms you. Keeping his hand planted firmly on your face and drilling your head onto the mat. It's pretty goofy. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Gringo Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Sounds lie a version of the Golden Arm Bomber (Urange) that Hiroshi Hase in Japan used to use... he helped train Suzuki at one point in the dojo so he may have got it from there... he'll probably have a new one in a bit anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Greenberg Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Sorta like an STO only with less force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Gringo Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Actually if play Smackdown 4 they have the move in the game.... Its an STK... a Space Tornado Kensuke, Kensuke Sasaki used it Japan for a while and he was one of his teachers as was Hase and also his mentor and tag partner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest takerlives Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Suzuki's finisher is what's best described as a face-shove-slam. Bit like a Rock Bottom. He puts his right hand over your face, maybe sneaking a finger up your nose (I don't know), puts his left arm under your arm pit and Rock Bottoms you. Keeping his hand planted firmly on your face and drilling your head onto the mat. It's pretty goofy. Cheers! its nothing like the rock bottom at all its like a reverse stroke kenzo wasnt that impressive at all tajiri is the best cruiserweight i the wwe has so they put him on raw that makes sense! all suzuki had was a finisher no regular moves just punch punch kick kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Where the hell did the Tajiri comment come from? And is the caps lock broke on your PC takerlives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boyo Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 LOL, Darkstar: I think he got Caps Lock mixed up with "Pop a cap in yo ass". That worries me. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 It wont worry any targets on a drive by though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clarkey Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I think guys in general are being overly harsh on Kenzo. He was never going to be a techinical wizard in the ring, people who hadn't even seen him wrestle before knew from his size and style alone that he was never going to be 'the next Bret Hart'. But not everyone can be, standards for how good guys have to be is a bar that is being held too highly esepcially in the WWE where it is public knowledge that Vince likes the Big Man at the top routine so that is how it will remain. Back to Kenzo himself, the guy got a two minute showing against Scotty Taylor....hardly a decent showing for a review of his talents. No offence to Scotty but his talent isn't at putting over the new guy, and having the new big man go over A N Other cruiserweight does little to increase his credibility. Give Kenzo a chance as with the right man, (which could have been Benoit if he had stayed with the Hirohito role on Raw) I feel he has enough about him to pull out a decent match. Hes not that bad, it was only chops and kicks because the time he had to showcase that was physically all he could do in that time. All I am saying in a long drawn out way, just as with Mordecai wait until they have their first drawn out match so they can showcase all of their moveset rather then judging on their first two minute squash matches. Also on the gimmick, I like it. Yes its stereotypical but what isn't in the world of wrestling. It is fresh in todays WWE just as the Mordecai gimmick is, just let the gimmick develop and then criticise when its bared all of its fruits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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