Did Benoit prove you wrong?

[Guest Dickie Hyde]

Well, it's been a fair while now since Chris Benoit won his first World Heavyweight Championship in the WWE.

 

The reason I created this thread is because I was just looking over the hall of fame wrestling threads and came over one which was called "Chris Benoit: Push or No Push." It was brought up because of the rumours of what did actually happen!

 

Well, this thread obviously explains itself, it was a debate over whether Benoit should get a push or not. 30 voted yes with 9 voting no, well, even I voted yes because of the totally unbiased polling :P (sorry, can't stand Jeff Hardy Chris, and yes, I know it was a joke :P)

 

Anyhow, I was wondering if there was anyone out there like me, who didn't believe Benoit could be a credible champion and suit his role? I for one, didn't, and I quote myself from that particular thread:

 

Come to think of it, Benoit with the title on the Smackdown side as it is now would be ok, but then if you put him in the mix with guys like Triple H and Goldberg from RAW then I would say no way jose

 

I voted yes to push him, but wouldn't have him hold the World Heaveyweight Championship.

 

Well, how wrong I was and i'm glad that the WWE pushed Benoit to the moon. Obviosuly Benoit touched up nicely on his mic skills but it just needed to happen and it seems to be where Benoit belongs. The guy did what he says he does, he proved me wrong

 

All I want to know is...

HOW MANY OF YOU DID CHRIS BENOIT PROVE WRONG? and do you feel he's fitted into his role nicley?

Edited October 2, 2004 by Dickie Hyde

[The Icon 152]

Benoit did prove me wrong, all along I thought despite his limitations he could still carry Raw. It is now obvious though that Benoit is just not capable of carrying a show & he should never be giving the world title again. Benoit should be doing what he does best making other opponents look good while putting them over, this way Benoit can stay where he deserves to be main eventing but won't have to carry the show / title which he is not capable of doing.

[Guest Jayden]

Yeah Benoit proved me about right I reckon. He's a great guy to have in the upper midcard putting guys over, or in the main event putting on great matches and losing. What he's not is the guy who should be pushed as the brand's biggest star. He is not the guy to carry the brand.

[Chris2K 176]

He didn't prove me wrong. I always knew he was World Champion material, and he proved he was.

[The Icon 152]

Sorry Chris but on this we must disagree Benoit was a failure as World Champ.

[Guest Jayden]

I always knew he was World Champion material, and he proved he was

care to explain exactly how he proved it? I'm not dismissing your opinion but I'd like to know what he did in your eyes that proved he was world champion material?

[Guest The Crippler]

Benoit was as credible a champion as Triple H has been and his title reign was at least as good as anything Hunter has done with that particular belt, I thought.

 

I don't see him as a guy who should get the belt a lot in the future but he was certainly good enough to get it at least once and the ratings didn't bomb like many predicted when he got the belt. A lot of the credit has to go to not only Chris but to the WWE who really played to his strengths.

 

Jayden makes a good point about the position Chris should have within the company. I'd like to see him as a heel as that way I think you could get even more out of him in terms of putting people over and it wouldn't affect Chris' character as much (as top heels can afford to lose much more readily than a top face can). From now on WWE will probably just wheel him out when they need a top match or him to carry someone to a good match and then put them over which doesn't particularly bother me. He got his moment he deserved and I'd not mind him in that role as long as good matches are being produced.

 

I do think he should be playing a bigger role in the shows at the minute though. He is still one of the more over guys on the Raw roster and using him in matches on Heat against Rodney Mack isn't really a great idea.

[Evil Gringo 279]

Benoit wasn't a failure as the world champ for several reasons...

 

1) The buyrate didn't drop nor the ratings, they have been like this for a while due to the slump in business caused by crap booking...

2) He did in a sense carry the show. He re-introduced Edge and gave him a purpose, he helped bring in Eugene and establish him, he gave Kane something to do and made him look threatening again, he gave HHH his several good quality matches against someone not called HBK... Thats carrying a show...

3) He gave the belt crediblilty after it been held by clique members for the past two years and a bald guy with diminished heat.

4) He then did the right thing and stepped aside and dropped the belt clean to the next chosen one and in doing so helped set up the next big storyline on Raw.

 

Thats a great title reign. Now yeah I agree he shouldn't hold titles left right and centre but I feel the booking to put the belt on Benoit was completely justified by all of that. And notice that even supposed 'top draw' HHH and 'Next Big Superstar' Orton aren't making the ratings shoot through the ceiling?

 

Thats not because it sucks nor that they are bad wrestlers, its just cos even if Rock came back and held the title for 5 months and had great matches aganist HBK, HHH, Kane and Orton then the ratings wouldn't climb. Its a slump ya hear!

[Guest Venture]

Sorry Chris but on this we must disagree Benoit was a failure as World Champ.

 

Benoit was indeed World Champion material. I don't know why some people don't like him now, since he lost his title at SummerSlam. What's the big deal? Benoit is one of the greatest wrestlers EVER. So he didn't prove me wrong.

[Guest Jayden]

It's not that people who did like him suddenly don't now, at least I don't think it is. It's just that some of us thought before he won the world title that while he is undoubtedly superb in the ring he wasn't the whole package in terms of being World Champion and carrying the company. Something which I for one still stand by even after his title run.

[Guest Venture]

It's not that people who did like him suddenly don't now' date=' at least I don't think it is. It's just that some of us thought before he won the world title that while he is undoubtedly superb in the ring he wasn't the whole package in terms of being World Champion and carrying the company. Something which I for one still stand by even after his title run.[/quote']

 

Yes, now that's class. I'll also do the same because Benoit was destined to be a great wrestler, which he is.

[The Icon 152]

He is a great wrestler, he's just not a great champ.

[Guest Dickie Hyde]

Well let's face it, not every wrestler can carry the company, but when there's someone who can, Benoit is right there with them. IMO, Benoit is in his rightful place, and that's as a WWE main-eventer. His wrestling skills are flawless. Yes, his mic skills aren't great, but they've certainly improved a lot, and he is over with the fans.

 

I think we will be seeing Chris Benoit with the title a few more times yet. Perhaps a trip to Smackdown! would do him good? Wrestling the likes of Kurt Angle?

[Fletch 204]

Chris Benoit didnt prove me wrong, he was about as entertaining as world champion as he ever has been, not very, less even. He has the mic skills of a strangled weasel in the way that theyre complete rubbish.

 

His in ring wrestling sure has been fantastic but lets face it, he's still as boring as hell because hes just a plain out great wrestler, theres no charisma to the guy. in that sense hes very bland and boring just like Ive always seen benoit as. So no Benoit proved nothing to me.

[Guest Dickie Hyde]

Benoit's great wrestling ability enables his charisma. He's shined a lot from what he was, he's always been the no nonsense competitor who steps in the ring and does what he does with a heart of gold. And as of right now, he's very over with the fans, and I don't see that changing to be honest... Edited October 2, 2004 by Dickie Hyde