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Guest The Beltster

OK this is my rant after reading a bunch of, what I consider, garbage on several different sites recently. Agree if you want, disagree if you want, its all good, its only what I have on my mind.

 

I’m so sick of people saying guys like Hogan are “All about the money and don’t love the business!” Yeah, and?! Where does it say in the pro wrestling rulebook that you have to be a mark to be a wrestler? It’s a load of crap.

 

It seems a lot of people these days, mainly internet smarks, are always ripping into guys like Hogan or Goldberg etc because “They don’t love the business!” So what?! What difference does that make! “Oh, Hogans all about the money and doesn’t care about the fans!” Yeah, so? Its his JOB! He did what he had to do when he was AT WORK, but once he is behind that curtain, he is a businessman, and a very shrewd and good one at that, as is Goldberg. They are doing it to make money, yet some people don’t like that. They bitch, piss and moan “Oh, Hogans got enough money, he is so greedy!” PLEASE! There is no such thing as “enough money”. Are you saying you would accept less when you can get more! Get real. And lets not forget, guys like Hogan have a family. The more money he earns, the better life he is giving to his family. Why do you think he clung to his spot for so long? Because he was making HUGE money. Do you think guys like Hulk Hogan could give a rats ass if a few internet smarks don’t like him because he wont put some younger talent over? I doubt it. Why would he sacrifice his spot and all that money to do what a bunch of people in their bedrooms behind their PC’s want him to do? Do you really think he is going to give up his spot and all that money because somebody says “Look at Hogan, he is so old, he should retire!” lol I doubt it.

 

To have people, specifically internet smarks, taking shots at those guys simply because they don’t adore a worked sport like you do is ridiculous, it almost defies all belief!

 

Wrestling is a business, to make money. That’s the bottom line. A lot of people seem to forget that. Yes, you enjoy it, its what you’re a mark for, but that doesn’t mean the wrestlers have to be marks, yet they get crapped on if they aren’t. Its stupid. Wrestling is a cut-throat business, once you make it to the top, knowing your body is going to pay the price when your older, you scratch and claw to stay there and make all the money you can, you treat the business like your bitch because believe me, no matter how much you give to wrestling, it takes more from you and if your broke when you retire, wrestling wont give a **** and it certainly wont look after you or care for you, so why should you care for it?

 

Let me ask you, why do you go to work? For fun? If you work in a McDonalds, do you flip burgers in respect of all those who flipped burgers before you? Come on! It’s a JOB. Its WORK. Its your source of income, just as wrestling is a job and a wrestlers sourse of income. Do all you people love and respect your jobs? I doubt it! Do you do it because you love it or do you do it to make money? How about if you were offered big money to go work somewhere else doing the same job? Would you take it? OF COURSE YOU WOULD, unless you’re an idiot.

 

This isn’t addressed to anybody specific here, but it will count for a lot of the crap I read here sometimes. This isn’t just Hogan, but ANYBODY who doesn’t love wrestling but makes a good living from him, I just used Hogans name as he is the guy who is usually bashed for being old and greedy etc.

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Guest shelton
well im a hogan fanatic i love the guy hes awesome and is a true legend he made wwf famous and has done extremely well and i hate wwe fans bagging him i think its bull**** hes a legend and will always be a legend
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whats wrong with having an opinion? My opinion is that Hogan should have retired from the ring as an active wrestler. Surely he can make good money in the business doing something else as the nostalia pop is probably still worth something so he could be a manager like Flair.

As a 'smark' i have to say that i do love the wrestling business and i am even trying to broaden my knowledge of it by getting Puro DVDs and will also be looking out for WCW and ECW DVD being re-released. But that Does not mean i have to be a fan of everyone in the business, Hogan was great, no denying that but the operative word is WAS he is hurting his legacy by continuing to wrestle activly

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I have to admit I do prefer it when the worker "loves" the business or at least enjoys it... I dunno why but if I know a worker ie. Goldberg doesn't give 2 rats asses about the business he's in, the opportunity he was given, and the fans etc then I dunno, I end up just not wanting to see them generally. I honestly don't think being a wrestler is like any other job. They rely more on fans than in most jobs, and when you hear for instance Chuck Palumbo being a dick with fans you think... screw him then.

 

On the other hand though, I would never list Hogan as one of those people who don't appreciate the business. He's an idiot sometimes yeh but I'd reserve that description for the Warriors, the Lesnars and the Goldbergs.

 

It's a good point that we probably shouldn't care but for me I think it is a big deal generally.. though saying that I am a massive Lesnar mark regardless so I'm really not sure where I stand.

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yeah i am that way too a bit, i liked Lesnar when he came in but when all the negative publicity came about i really did go off him and now he up and left for NFL and failed i really don't think i'd like him coming back too much.
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whats wrong with having an opinion? My opinion is that Hogan should have retired from the ring as an active wrestler. Surely he can make good money in the business doing something else as the nostalia pop is probably still worth something so he could be a manager like Flair.

As a 'smark' i have to say that i do love the wrestling business and i am even trying to broaden my knowledge of it by getting Puro DVDs and will also be looking out for WCW and ECW DVD being re-released. But that Does not mean i have to be a fan of everyone in the business, Hogan was great, no denying that but the operative word is WAS he is hurting his legacy by continuing to wrestle activly

 

You just TOTALLY missed my point entirely. I didnt say you shouldnt or cant have an opinion, what I said was why should people like Hogan care what you think when it comes to his business practises, how he earns his money and whether you think he should be a mark for wrestling or not?

 

People are always saying "Oh, Hogan isnt a mark for wrestling!" My question is: Why should he be? Just because he is a wrestler doesnt mean he has to be a mark for it, or do whats 'right' by it. Wrestling doesnt do whats right when guys are broken down, crippled and out of the spotlight. Wrestling chews people up and spits them out, yet smarks question people who use wrestling for their own personal gain? Its a case of whats good for one isnt good for the other and I think its stupid.

 

I also posed the question "Would you retire just because smarks think you should if YOU were earning $170,000 PER Nitro and more per PPV?" I doubt it.

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I have to say I do agree with it when it comes to a lot of fans on the net criticising stuff which is ridiculous, I always tend to agree that it's them who have to worry about their next paycheck being on the table, not us.

 

At the same time though, to be a dick on Goldberg/Warrior like levels is unfair on the fans. There's a balance somewhere I think.

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It doesn't say you should be a mak, but you should at least have respect for the business. Lesnar and Goldberg don't IMO. Hogan does, and he has earned the right to the money he was being paid. You don't hang around that long if you don't love and respect what you're doing.
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Yeah but there is a big difference between being a dick to the fans (which we have every right to question and be mad about) and being a dick backstage when it comes to keeping your spot (which we CAN complain about, but its really none of our business).

 

What I'm saying is this: The Warrior was a ***** to the fans including little kids etc, that sucks because afterall, its the fans which are buying the tickets, merchandise, PPVs etc which pay the Warrior, so he should show at least some amount of respect to them, as long as they show the same respect to him.

 

I have never EVER one time EVER heard of an instance where Hulk Hogan was mean to a fan or turned them down for pictures, autographs etc, even when he was a heel. I have heard, though, that he is a selfish bastard backstage. But, thats his business, thats his JOB, its how he makes his living, if he sees an opening where he can make more money, whether its at the expense of other wrestlers or not, then he is going to take it, as would we all. I dont understand how smarks can complain, its his work and his wages, he is doing whats best for himself and his family, how can anybody complain about that? Everybody who works would love to get a promotion and a raise, and they would all be willing to step on people they work with to get it, WE ALL WOULD, its the name of the game: MONEY!

 

Sure, complain he sucks in the ring, complain he is old, complain he is slow, but how can you justify complaining about him not retiring, especially when he is earning the money he is. Would any of you retire from your job if you were getting paid $175,000 everytime you went into work, just because people said they wanted you too? LOL No way!

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It doesn't say you should be a mak' date=' but you should at least have respect for the business. Lesnar and Goldberg don't IMO. Hogan does, and he has earned the right to the money he was being paid. You don't hang around that long if you don't love and respect what you're doing.[/quote']

 

Why should you have respect for the business? Its a work. Its all a fantasy World, its not reality, its your job. If you work for KFC, do you have respect for Colonel Sanders and his spicy chicken? No way, its just your job.

 

If Hogan has respect for the business (which I'm sure he does, to a certain extent) then why does he put himself before whats supposedly 'right for business'? Its because its his job. You can respect your job to a certain extent, but not to the point where you do things which arent to your benefit.

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Guest The Doctor

I do see your point, Belty. A job's a job and all that. But not disrespecting your employer and the people who watch you and indirectly put money in your pocket would show some class. If you are a wrestler in it purely for the money, why not just keep quiet about it and not tarnish your own reputation?

I think the reason a job in a performing role such as being a professional wrestler comes under such scrutiny is there are thousands of people busting their arses to break into the big time and when they see someone who has made it taking their good fortune for granted and disrespecting the business and/or their fans it is a slap in the face to those with real passion for it.

People don't tend to have the same passion to drive for miles every weekend to train to flip burgers, doing it for free for years in a hope of being noticed by someone who can give them a shot at working for McDonalds! :D

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Guest Anime Otaku

nail. head. hit

 

there is alot more to wrestling than alot of jobs, actors wrestlers models and musicians all need to have a passion for their jobsor really they would have no reason to do them, surely there is some job they could train to get that would get them the same money eventually, especially when you remeber that wrestlers and actors in particular start off quite often working for almost nothing

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Yeh I agree too. I didnt agree with the fans booing etc Lesnar for the fact he preffered American Football. Its his choice, and wouldnt you do the same thing in his position? I like football, but if I was a good netball player (just example) and got to the top of the buisness, then I had an offer from BWFC to player Football for them, I woud accept. Not because Im disloyal or whatever but because its my choice.

With Lesnar it annoyed me so much, reading peple having a paddy, and pretending Lesnar insulted them.

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The only time I've seen any WWE superstars was at the live Raw taping in manchester last october at the Meet and Greet session. I saw Eugene, Coach, Tajiri, Val Venis and Chuck Palumbo. Not my best £55 ever spent to be honest. Eugene, Val and Coach were great, Tajiri was pretty quiet (obviously playing his "i know no english" japanese role). But Chuck Palumbo was a complete a**! He looked so bored, colouring in other peoples autograph mats while waiting for the next person and wasnt even interested when I tried talking to him - no wonder he got released!

 

Here's my pics with Chuck "The Goon" Palumbo and Eugene - see the difference in personality for yourself...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/Andy_Telford/MeChcukPalumbo-MeetGreet.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/Andy_Telford/MeEugene-MeetGreet.jpg

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I tell you what pisses me of all these [EDIT] nametags fans call themselves or eachother. Oh look at me im a smark why does HHH hog the title? Go and watch your Puro.

Im a [EDIT] wrestling fan plain and simple.

 

And guess what I LOVE THE WWE

 

P.S. Hogan is the [EDIT] man

 

Also I hate that 'smarks' think that they are cleverer than people that watch WWE and dont mock it that much. And they think they know wrestling better

 

Sorry just had to get that of my chest :mad :mad :mad

 

NO EXCESSIVE SWEARING - DraVen

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