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Remember the recent(ish) sackings by Vinnie Mac? That's nothing. Brutal as it seems, here's who'd go if I had my way:

 

RAW

 

Christopher Nowinski

Garrison Cade

Ivory

Jim Ross

Jonathan Coachman

Lilian Garcia

Mark Henry

Rob Conway

Rosey

Steven Richards

Sylvain Grenier

 

SMACKDOWN!

 

Funaki

The Basham Bros

Daniel Puder

Dawn Marie

Hardcore Holly

Heidenreich

Jesus

Kenzo Suzuki

Scotty 2 Hotty

Shannon Moore

Rene Dupree

Miss Jackie

Mark Jindrak

(Luther Reigns I am undecided about)

 

 

And those diva search bits of fluff as well.

 

Any objections?

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Guest BWS Soldier

I agree with some there but there are quite a few on that list who i would keep

 

so heres a list from yours who i would keep

 

RAW

 

Jim Ross

Jonathan Coachman

Lilian Garcia

Rob Conway

Sylvain Grenier

 

SMACKDOWN!

 

Funaki

The Basham Bros

Heidenreich

Kenzo Suzuki

Shannon Moore

Rene Dupree

Mark Jindrak

(Luther Reigns I am undecided about)

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heres a list from yours who i would keep

 

Let's take a look then:

 

RAW

 

Jim Ross - maybe keep his talent relations position but step down from announcing. He is degenerating in his abilities rapidly. To the point where not only are wrestlers' signature moves called wrongly (not by their given name - try watching an Edge match called by JR) but also standard moves are. (Michael Cole has got much better in this dept BTW,so he's safe!)

Jonathan Coachman - I could agree with keeping the announcing and magazine columnist jobs but he should never set foot in the ring again!

Lilian Garcia - meh

Rob Conway - see below

Sylvain Grenier - I know these two are the Tag Team champs and I hesitated to put them on the list, but I am just not a fan.

 

SMACKDOWN!

 

Funaki

The Basham Bros

Heidenreich

Kenzo Suzuki

Shannon Moore

Rene Dupree

Mark Jindrak

(Luther Reigns I am undecided about)

 

All the above (except MAYBE Luther) can still sling their hook IMO.

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Guest The Crippler

This is who I'd pick:

 

RAW

Candice

Ivory

Mark Henry

Todd Grisham

Tyson Tomko

 

Smackdown

Amy Weber

Hardcore Holly

Heidenreich

Jesus

Joy

Kenzo Suzuki

Mark Jindrak

Scotty Too Hotty

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Guest Christian Rules
Remember the recent(ish) sackings by Vinnie Mac? That's nothing. Brutal as it seems, here's who'd go if I had my way:

 

RAW

 

Christopher Nowinski

Garrison Cade

Ivory

Jim Ross

Jonathan Coachman

Lilian Garcia

Mark Henry

Rob Conway

Rosey

Steven Richards

Sylvain Grenier

 

SMACKDOWN!

 

Funaki

The Basham Bros

Daniel Puder

Dawn Marie

Hardcore Holly

Heidenreich

Jesus

Kenzo Suzuki

Scotty 2 Hotty

Shannon Moore

Rene Dupree

Miss Jackie

Mark Jindrak

(Luther Reigns I am undecided about)

 

 

And those diva search bits of fluff as well.

 

Any objections?

 

Why on earth would anyone want the coach, lilian garcia, rob conway, stevie richards, dawn marie and the diva search girls gone?

 

The coach = The voice of the heels.

Lilian Garcia = Pretty to look at and is great at live shows.

Rob Conway = A good wrestler!

Stevie Richards = Always gets good reactions from fans even when on heat.

Dawn Marie and the diva search girls = Their segments are light hearted and nothing to be taken seriously, also they are great to look at.

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Why on earth would anyone want the coach, lilian garcia, rob conway, stevie richards, dawn marie and the diva search girls gone?

 

The coach = The voice of the heels. As long as he's just a voice and not a wrestler

Lilian Garcia = Pretty to look at and is great at live shows. meh

Rob Conway = A good wrestler! see above

Stevie Richards = Always gets good reactions from fans even when on heat. I nearly didn't put him on the list, to be truthful. He is redundant now, but this could actually be sorted with better booking and a (moderate) push

Dawn Marie and the diva search girls = Their segments are light hearted and nothing to be taken seriously, also they are great to look at. serious or no, at the very least I feel they should cut their airtime in favour of some actual talented athletes

 

...IMO :)

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This is who I'd pick:

 

RAW

Candice

Ivory

Mark Henry

Todd Grisham this guy has actually really grown on me, and I'd like to see him and not Maria or Coach doing more backstage interviews, etc.

Tyson Tomko I hate to say it, but I didn't include him just because of his look. Tattoos are cool!

 

Smackdown

Amy Weber

Hardcore Holly DIE! DIE! PIGDOG!!

Heidenreich

Jesus

Joy

Kenzo Suzuki

Mark Jindrak

Scotty Too Hotty

 

See? This is easy. Big Vin wasn't harsh enough! He said there were more to come...

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Dude... there's some good ones there... but here they are:

 

RAW

 

Jim Ross

Jonathan Coachman

Lilian Garcia

Rob Conway

Sylvain Grenier

 

SMACKDOWN!

 

Funaki

The Basham Bros

Daniel Puder

Dawn Marie

Heidenreich

Jesus

Scotty 2 Hotty

Rene Dupree

Miss Jackie

Mark Jindrak

(Luther Reigns I am undecided about)

 

I think that's right.

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Guest The Doctor
Dude... there's some good ones there... but here they are:

 

RAW

 

Jim Ross

Jonathan Coachman

Lilian Garcia

Rob Conway

Sylvain Grenier

 

SMACKDOWN!

 

Funaki

The Basham Bros

Daniel Puder

Dawn Marie

Heidenreich

Jesus

Scotty 2 Hotty

Rene Dupree

Miss Jackie

Mark Jindrak

(Luther Reigns I am undecided about)

 

I think that's right.

Sorry to be thick, but are these who you want to keep or sack? :?

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Why Funaki! He is numba 1 smackdown announcer - and numba 1 cruiserweight champion!!!

 

They should definately ditch the majority of the diva search contestants. They are just clogging up the place with tedious segments.

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Why Funaki! He is numba 1 smackdown announcer - and numba 1 cruiserweight champion!!!

 

They should definately ditch the majority of the diva search contestants. They are just clogging up the place with tedious segments.

INDEED!

As Funaki is now, IMO he's a joke as an announcer, and an average cruiserweight wrestler. I'd rather see Kidman, London, Rey, Akio, Tajiri or even Nunzio pushed instead.

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Come on admit it.. you need a little "fun" with the Divas there undressing for u in front of ur TV sets? :P lol

 

And as for Daniel Puder... like it or not, he may be a bad Superstar from what we've seen after his TE Contest, but now he's like Christy Hemme... she can't get fired for ages, either since they WON, not GIVEN a WWE Contract. So probably if they murdered somebody (lol whatever) they would probably still have a WWE Contract... just think of Linda Miles/Shaniqua Tough Enough 2 Champion (Jackie Gayda, Miss. Jackie was another one, but she's still in WWE) because Shaniqua was known to have a bad attitude and if she was GIVEN a WWE Contract she would have been fired RIGHT AWAY with her bad attitude as she was also sent back to OVW... and she kept The Basham Brothers down.. she made them some sort of "low Tag Team" when they were great Superstars and had won the Heavyweight Titles in other Company's, before they came to the WWE...

 

And, as for Funaki, "SmackDown! #1 Announcer", I think he needs to stop talking like Tajiri don't talk, get more powerful moves like The Tarantula etc.. he should act like Tajiri, silent but deadly. :xyx

 

Sorry to be thick' date=' but are these who you want to keep or sack? :?[/quote']

 

Oops, lol. I meant they were the good ones, to keep. :xyx

 

This is who I'd pick:

Amy Weber

 

Didn't you hear while in Japan Amy Weber wanted to go on her own plane back home and she has (well we think so, but I think her profile is still on WWE.Com...) left... that means the Faction has less numbers.. I'm hoping for a big faction like Ministry of Darkness here..

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Let's take a look then:

 

RAW

 

Jim Ross - maybe keep his talent relations position but step down from announcing. He is degenerating in his abilities rapidly. To the point where not only are wrestlers' signature moves called wrongly (not by their given name - try watching an Edge match called by JR) but also standard moves are. (Michael Cole has got much better in this dept BTW,so he's safe!)

Jonathan Coachman - I could agree with keeping the announcing and magazine columnist jobs but he should never set foot in the ring again!

Lilian Garcia - meh

Rob Conway - see below

Sylvain Grenier - I know these two are the Tag Team champs and I hesitated to put them on the list, but I am just not a fan.

 

SMACKDOWN!

 

Funaki

The Basham Bros

Heidenreich

Kenzo Suzuki

Shannon Moore

Rene Dupree

Mark Jindrak

(Luther Reigns I am undecided about)

 

All the above (except MAYBE Luther) can still sling their hook IMO.

 

First off most of the list you had was fine with me. Except two. Good ole JR and Lillian Garcia.

 

I've been watching Jim Ross since 1987. When he used to do commentary on a wrestling show called the UWF. Ever since then I've followed his career from there to the NWA/WCW to the WWF/WWE. He is truly one of the broadcasting legends in the business. Hes seen it all and knows it all. Its not JR's fault that he has to hold back what he really wants to say or has to hold back what he really thinks about things. Its all Vince's doing.

 

Most of the time I hear JR slip here and there when talking about certain moves or talking about the background of a particular wrestler. I think its good to have someone behind the podium that does talk about whats"real" sometimes. If there is anyone that needs to go its Jerry Lawler. I mean he cant really wrestle anymore,and he always rides the sack of every heel that steps in the ring. You basically can put anyone next to JR and you'll have a good show. I say put Stone Cold or The Rock as a wrestling commentator next to JR then you would have some great entertainment.

 

Plus JR just suffered a stroke about two years ago. He was bound to lose a step or two. But wrestling needs JR at the announcers table. I think its a shame that the WWE puts him in the worst positions over the years. I mean you never seen Joey Styles from ECW or Tony Schivonie from the NWA/WCW getting their ass kicked inside the ring for no reason. You never seen David Crockett or Gordon Solie inside the ring trading blows with somebody. Why should somebody like JR has to go through this? Its totally disrespectful.

 

And as far as Lillian Garcia goes whats up with that? Shes nice on the eyes to look at and shes one hell of an announcer. Plus shes like one of the guys around the WWE. She jokes with the guys and even drinks beer with them. You rather have Howard Finkel back? Thanks, but no thanks. Keep Lillian Garcia and keep good ole JR. Everybody else on your list? Send them packing brother!!!

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RAW!

 

Molly Holly (shoulda kept the korean one.. dammmit I forgot her name...)

Garrison Cade

Gene Sh*tsky

Ric Flair

Rosey

Shawn Michaels (I just hate him) Talent on loan from God my ass.

Steven Richards

Simon Dean as a wrestler keep him as a promo guy

Chris Masters (undoubtedly he will suck)

 

SD!

Shannon Moore

Funaki

Orlando Jordan

The Bashams

Hide And Seek

Daniel Puder

Allll The Dudleys (they may be the only bonerfide tag team left but by god they suck now)

 

That's pretty much it.

 

There's a few poeple that Vinnie fired I would kept but I can't bring their names to mind right now

 

Ciao bella

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Guest johnny knoxvill

I would never get rid of Val Venus the guy is super loyal and is a great back up plan he can talk and wrestle

 

Jim Ross He is a legend and will never be sacked

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ortoncena did you mean "Fail" (Gail) Kim? well, she did fail... :roll :P

 

Hide and Seek?!?!?

 

And The Dudleys would be good to keep if they brought back Hardcore/Table/TLC matches. Well that was in the WWF... has there ever been a Hardcore table TLC or any in WWE yet :?

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ortoncena did you mean "Fail" (Gail) Kim? well, she did fail... :roll :P

 

Hide and Seek?!?!?

QUOTE]

 

Gail Kim was hot and a good wrestler. her submission looked genuinely painfull.

 

And Heidenreich definately

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Guest johnny knoxvill

OMG Flair should never leave I cant believe you said that the guy is a comic genuis and sure as hell entertains me in the ring.

 

HBK is also a legend How dare you. He is one of the best wrestlers in the industry.

 

Heidenreich is my mind is cool. I like his poems :xyx

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First off most of the list you had was fine with me. Except two. Good ole JR and Lillian Garcia.

 

I've been watching Jim Ross since 1987. When he used to do commentary on a wrestling show called the UWF. Ever since then I've followed his career from there to the NWA/WCW to the WWF/WWE. He is truly one of the broadcasting legends in the business. Hes seen it all and knows it all. Its not JR's fault that he has to hold back what he really wants to say or has to hold back what he really thinks about things. Its all Vince's doing.

 

Most of the time I hear JR slip here and there when talking about certain moves or talking about the background of a particular wrestler. I think its good to have someone behind the podium that does talk about whats"real" sometimes. If there is anyone that needs to go its Jerry Lawler. I mean he cant really wrestle anymore,and he always rides the sack of every heel that steps in the ring. You basically can put anyone next to JR and you'll have a good show. I say put Stone Cold or The Rock as a wrestling commentator next to JR then you would have some great entertainment.

 

Plus JR just suffered a stroke about two years ago. He was bound to lose a step or two. But wrestling needs JR at the announcers table. I think its a shame that the WWE puts him in the worst positions over the years. I mean you never seen Joey Styles from ECW or Tony Schivonie from the NWA/WCW getting their ass kicked inside the ring for no reason. You never seen David Crockett or Gordon Solie inside the ring trading blows with somebody. Why should somebody like JR has to go through this? Its totally disrespectful.

 

And as far as Lillian Garcia goes whats up with that? Shes nice on the eyes to look at and shes one hell of an announcer. Plus shes like one of the guys around the WWE. She jokes with the guys and even drinks beer with them. You rather have Howard Finkel back? Thanks, but no thanks. Keep Lillian Garcia and keep good ole JR. Everybody else on your list? Send them packing brother!!!

 

Yay! I was hoping you'd throw your oar in, Franchy. Surprised you agree with so much, actually.

My point with JR is that you are damn right he's a legend, but I feel his continual errors and stumbles are tarnishing that a little now. He's a hugely valuable asset to the WWE, but not necessarily in the commentator's role.

 

I am a die hard RAW fan, but I feel Tazz and Michael Cole are now better on the commentary stakes at present than JR and King.

Stone Cold by his side is a ruddy fantastic idea (Stone Cold behind the announcer's table sure worked for Celebrity Deathmatch!).

That would shift some of the focus away and he wouldn't have to go ten to the dozen and slip up. Maybe King should go then...?

 

Lilian Garcia. Well if y'all like her, we'll keep her. I have no specific objections to her as such, she's just, well...meh. I don't think she's all that and I hate her singing but I don't mind giving in on this one. :)

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