For all those who think that Bret can't let go...

[Fletch 204]

The title cracked me up Screwed: The Bret Hart story. Bwahaha. Screwed: The Julian Clary Story would sound equally as bad. Bret screwed Bret though thats where the similarity ends

[DC 536]

I cant help but laugh at all this.Back in 1992 Ric Flair comes from WCW to the WWF with the WCW title intact.

The thing withthat is, if I'm not mistaken, was that Flair, as champ, had to put a deposit on the belt. He had not been refunded the money, so still had legal 'ownership' of the belt. Yes Vince did show the belt on tv, only covering it up when Flair got his money and the belt was returned, using an old Tag belt after that, (The reason the belt was covered in the first place).

 

But on topic, I am coming round more and more to Beltey's way of thinking. And if it's revealed to be a work, then I, hopefully along with everyone else who remembers it and bought it, will raise a glass and toast the genius of Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

[Guest A.C.]

Again, what evidence or proof does this DVD idea provide? It neither strengthens one side of the work/shoot arguement or weakens the other. The evidence available and the proof we have still only points to a shoot. Opinion and rumour are the only things going for the work side of the arguement.

[Guest Kanenite]

it's truly stupid how the canadian fans can't let some thing that happened back in 97.yes it was a screwjob' date='but as much as i like bret hart vince did what he thought was right.bret could of ended up on wcw nitro with the title and dump it in a trash can like madusa or even do some thing else with it.was it right of vince to do what he did,of course,he's the boss.should he of told bret and tried to work it out.ya he should.[/quote']

I know what you mean about the canadian fans I mean when they went to toronto when HBK was against Christian they booed HBK so hard I was angry at the sight but at least the guy can take it and jokes about it which is good to see

[DC 536]

Again' date=' what evidence or proof does this DVD idea provide? It neither strengthens one side of the work/shoot arguement or weakens the other. The evidence available and the proof we have still only points to a shoot. Opinion and rumour are the only things going for the work side of the arguement.[/quote']That's why I said if Bub.

[Guest Kakarot]

Was is a work? Was it a shoot? WHO CARES. The only real fact is that it's p*ssing me off that we're still talking about it 8 years later. Are we really ever gonna get anywhere with this until either Vince comes out and says 'sorry', or posibly 'gottcha'. Or Bret comes out and says 'I love you Vince'. Seroiusly guys. (And by guys I mean you, Vince, Bret, Shawn and about a million Canadians). Let it go. I tell you what though, if it was a work, Vince is an even bigger genius than anyone thought, I mean what an angle. And I wish Bret would grow up. I mean seriously, whining like a little b*tch about losing a WRESTLING MATCH. And that was after he'd already decided to jump ship for a bigger paycheck. What a f**king hypocrite. Lots of guys job in their hometown. Granted many know about it. But get over it. I mean how has it affected him. Really. It's just wrestling for crying out loud. And it's obvious it did nothing for his popularity based on Canadians reactions everytime Shawn Michaeals steps into Toronto. Good God. A little perspective would be great guys. Seriously.

 

OK. Rant over.

[Guest Dave7g]

Just because they are bringing out a DVD on it doesn't prove anything Belty. The DVD is out because it was the biggest story in wrestling ever and people want to know about it. The footage in Shadows was allowed because the peple that made it signed a contract with WWF to allow footage from matches and the Documentary had been filming for a year before Montreal.

[Guest The Beltster]

Just because they are bringing out a DVD on it doesn't prove anything Belty. The DVD is out because it was the biggest story in wrestling ever and people want to know about it. The footage in Shadows was allowed because the peple that made it signed a contract with WWF to allow footage from matches and the Documentary had been filming for a year before Montreal.

 

So you're saying they want people to know about it...who doesnt already know about it?! Its been flogged to death. The footage in WWS that their guys filmed, they could obviously use, but they also used WWF owned footage of Vince's 'Bret screwed Bret' interview on RAW afterwards. Thats AFTER the WWS documentary wrapped up filming. Believe me, they used it with permission from Vince, and Vince wouldnt give permission to use it unless it was a work...not a chance.

 

It was a work, no single doubt about it, and we are getting closer and closer to having it proven I'm sure. Time will tell.

[Guest Jung]

"So you're saying they want people to know about it...who doesnt already know about it?! Its been flogged to death. The footage in WWS that their guys filmed, they could obviously use, but they also used WWF owned footage of Vince's 'Bret screwed Bret' interview on RAW afterwards. Thats AFTER the WWS documentary wrapped up filming. Believe me, they used it with permission from Vince, and Vince wouldnt give permission to use it unless it was a work...not a chance.

 

It was a work, no single doubt about it, and we are getting closer and closer to having it proven I'm sure. Time will tell"

 

There ain't no proof, thus there are millions of doubts about it. Also who said Wrestling With Shadows wrapped up filming then? If they signed a contract saying we can use footage, then they can use footage. If would have to be so incredibly far fetched to say right we can use footage, but not until this screw job (which the camera team, and whole promotion would have to know about), and then we can the day after that, because we are gonna try and fool everyone. They started filming in 1996, I doubt there was anything saying they can't keep filming if it's in relation to what they are doing, plus Vince signed the contract.

 

I don't believe one way or another if it's a work or a shoot, but you can't say there is no doubt when there is loads, and the stuff you mentioned, doesn't prove anything.

[Guest Jung]

Plus the probable reason they are doing it, is because they can make lots of money out of it, just like the history of the NWO one, and the rise and fall of ECW.

[Guest The Beltster]

There ain't no proof, thus there are millions of doubts about it. Also who said Wrestling With Shadows wrapped up filming then? If they signed a contract saying we can use footage, then they can use footage. If would have to be so incredibly far fetched to say right we can use footage, but not until this screw job (which the camera team, and whole promotion would have to know about), and then we can the day after that, because we are gonna try and fool everyone. They started filming in 1996, I doubt there was anything saying they can't keep filming if it's in relation to what they are doing, plus Vince signed the contract.

 

I don't believe one way or another if it's a work or a shoot, but you can't say there is no doubt when there is loads, and the stuff you mentioned, doesn't prove anything.

 

I can say no doubt, because I personally have no doubt. I'm not saying its 100% simply because I cant without actual proof. But, I can say I have no doubt it was a work, because from everything I can see, I call work.

 

As for signing a contract, yeah, they signed a contract giving them permission to film their own doumentary using their OWN footage. Since when has Vince McMahon EVER given permission to anybody to use footage that he owns? Never, as far as I can remember.

[Guest The Beltster]

Plus the probable reason they are doing it' date=' is because they can make lots of money out of it, just like the history of the NWO one, and the rise and fall of ECW.[/quote']

 

Finally, a payday from all the years of working everybody. :xyx If Bret Hart turns up on TV anytime after this is put out there, and people STILL claim its a shoot, then they are nuts.

[Guest Dave7g]

Belty you are entitled to your own opinion, but stop demanding everyone to believe it. You think it was a work thats all, you think! I think otherwise for the obvious reasons that its clearly not. And thats what I Think. And I'm not "Nuts".

[Guest The Beltster]

Belty you are entitled to your own opinion' date=' but stop demanding everyone to believe it. You think it was a work thats all, you think! I think otherwise for the obvious reasons that its clearly not. And thats what I Think. And I'm not "Nuts".[/quote']

 

Ummm...I'm not demanding people believe it, as I could care less if you believe it or not. However, if you, or anybody else disputed my opinions with you're own, of course I'm going to defend what I believe to be the truth...isnt that what an internet chat forum is all about? I believe it is.

 

And read what you wrote: "For the obvious reasons that its clearly not!" Well, its not that obvious and clear, is it? Because there are alot of people here who believe otherwise.

[Guest malaphesto]

I was there and We did Boo HBK. why? because he ruined the greatest canadian wrestler. 2 why in the BLUE hell are we gonna boo our hometown hero's sidekick Christian. Not only that BUT mabey he could do us (the canadian fans a favor and NOT make fun of us)

P.S here in canada we always cheer heels:D (besides JBL)