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*** Official TNA Sacrifice 2006 Thread ****


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Matches


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  • Full Metal Mayhem
    NWA World Heavyweight Title
    Christian Cage © vs. "The Monster" Abyss w/James Mitchell
  • Sting and Samoa Joe vs. Jeff Jarrett and Scott Steiner
  • NWA World Tag Team Title Match
    America’s Most Wanted © vs. AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels
  • Raven vs. Team Canada's A1
  • "The War Machine" Rhino vs. "The Canadian Enforcer" Bobby Roode
  • World X Cup Round 2 Matchup
    Petey Williams (Canada) vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger (Japan)
  • World X Cup Finals
    Gauntlet Match
  • The James Gang vs. Team 3D

Plus a Special Appearance By Kevin Nash!

 

How to order the PPV

 

UK:

8pm on Sunday 21st May on The Wrestling Channel

 

USA:

See TNAWrestling.com - PPVs

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A couple of filler (Rhino and Raven's matches) but other than that looks like a solid card. Looking forward to the main event.
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Guest Slim Jim
Another solid TNA PPV, but nothing special. The top 2 matches on the card were probably the best.
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If there was ever an indication that Rhino would be leaving TNA it occured last night, well at least I think so.
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I don't know, I do think Bobby Roode is getting pushed somewhat this year, but you're probably right, Rhino will probably leave.
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World X Cup Tournament (Round 2): Jushin ?Thunder? Liger defeated Petey Williams with a Facebuster.

 

 

* NWA World Tag Team Champions, America?s Most Wanted (Chris Harris & James Storm) defeated AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels when Gail Kim dropped a night stick from the rafters and A.J. gets clocked while the ref is out, resulting in the pinfall.

 

 

* Raven defeated A1 with a Raven Effect.

 

 

* Bobby Roode defeated Rhino with a Northern Lariat after D?Amore interferrence.

 

 

* The James Gang (BG James & Kip James) defeated Team 3D (Brother Ray & Brother Devon) after BG James whacks Devon with a lead pipe for the pin.

 

 

* World X Cup Tournament (Finals ? Gauntlet Match): Petey Williams defeated Puma, to tie Team USA at 5 points. The other participants were Minoru Tanaka, Chris Sabin, Hiroki Goto, Incognito, Johnny Devine, Sonjay Dutt, Black Tiger, Magno, Eric Young, Alex Shelley, Jushin ?Thunder? Liger, Shocker, Tyson Dux, and Jay Lethal.

 

 

* Sting & TNA X-Division Champion, Samoa Joe defeated Jeff Jarrett & Scott Steiner after a Muscle Buster from Joe on Jarrett.

 

 

Full Metal Mayhem Match: NWA World Heavyweight Champion, Christian Cage defeated Abyss after Frogsplashing Abyss through a table from the top of a ladder, then climbing to retrieve the NWA W0orld Heavyweight Championship Belt.

 

-lordsofpain.net

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We open Sacrifice with a cool, if not all too familiar opening video. The Impact Zone is crowded with the usual TNA fans, with their TNA chants. If they're not stealing from WCW, they're stealing from ECW. Mike Tenay with Don "The Tool" West, and we're kicking off with some cup thingie. Seriously, could they have done less to make the World X Cup mean anything? Reason 1 why Kevin Nash is the best thing in TNA: the X-division IS filler, as evidenced here.

 

Dave Penzer is YOUR ring announcer, and whether WCW or not, the guy is still a million and one times better than Jeremy Bore-ass. Sadly, Penzer lacks the trademark muffled sound that he had back in his glory days. The Japanese arcade game music means that Jushin Lyger is on his way to the ring, for what should be a good opening bout. Streamers fill the ring, surely crippling TNA's yearly production budget, and an abrupt change in music means OOOOH CAAANADAAA. EVERYBODY RISE, FOR THE PLAYING OF THE CANADIAN NATIONAL ANTHEM. Staring at the stage for ten seconds reminds me of the days of having the lovely Lollipop and her lovely behind to stare at. Oh how I miss those days. Looking back, TNA was great back then. Petey Williams is out, and the first of a million wrestler pyro displays goes off. I'm pretty sure everyone has pyro now. Even Jeremy Bore-ass probably has pyro. West and Tenay babble about some scores that mean nothing to me, and I get a giggle out of West calling Lyger a great wrestler. Oh, he's not lying, but I await the moment of Don "The Knowledge Bucket" West screaming over that flying kick to the face when someone hits a dropkick. I can't keep up/be arsed in order to play-by-play this, but it's all good until Team Japan jump Petey on the outside. Not a very babyface thing to do. I presume Jushin is the babyface in this. You know, babyfaces and heels... good guys and bad guys... remember that logical, important part of wrestling, TNA? As an aside, a mere two minutes and no "This Is Awesome" chants? This crowd is failing me. But wait... dueling chants for all of ten seconds. There we go. Can't have these fans not trying to put themselves over. Some nice back and forth action between the two, and Jushin sells the DDT with much hilarity (made more hilarious with the mask on). Petey sets up the Canadian Destroyer but falls to a palm thrust. Jushin holds Petey up and goes for a powerbo... o... o... o... o... wow, he's up there a long time. Weird, nobody is moving. Everyone seems to have gone silent. The awe for such a move is incredible, and I kinda prefer TNA fans this way. At this point, whoever is watching the PPV checks his on-screen TV guide to no effect. C'mon TNA. If you're gonna freeze the shot, do it on something like So Cal Val, not Williams with a power ranger growing out of his crotch. You're not going to spike the PPV buys this way. Unrelatedly, we're missing National Lampoon's European Vacation for this.

 

And we're back with a shot of Stings locker room door. What a way to make an angry viewer feel better. Even a shot of Joe helps none. Tenay tells us that Lyger won. Great. Glad I saw the one. Tenay and West run down the PPV matches before sending it back to Bore-ass with AMW, Gail Kim and Jackie Haas. Kim, as always, looks hot from the neck down. Jackie is crying, probably because they promised her that someone competant would conduct the interview. Like Scott Hudson. Boy do I miss him. Chris Harris takes the mike and talks up a storm (not literally), whilst the real Storm downs a bottle o'brewski. Storm talks, and Jackie still cries. Makes sense. God, she's a terrible actress. Crying doesn't involve doing the time warp, hun. Bore-ass asks the matter, and Jackie reveals that she is pregnant. WOOOAAAH! Everyone jumps up at attention. I see TNA banned the Wrestling Observer from all events. Gail and her face OF DOOM (screw you, Scott Keith) fire Jackie, and leaves.

 

Video package for the new DREAM TEAM. No, not SPIRIT SQUAD~! but rather AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels. We start the match, and AJ shows, get this, CHARISMA. I know, I nearly had convulsions just thinking about it. Typical tag team formula. Babyface advantage, heel advantage, hot tag, West talking bollocks. The tower of suplexbomb is attempted, but Daniels holds himself at the top and lets the rest fall, before hitting a crossbody on Harris. Brawl in the crowd, before going back into the ring where Harris hits a good spear on Daniels, showing why Edge's spear looks so bad. Harris actually tackled him down. Edge just grazes. Some nice double team moves are implemented, and West goes CRAZY at Daniels breaking up a cover. Seriously, you've never heard a guy see a save as something so incredible. The action continues until a baton falls from heaven. Seriously, I think Big Boss Man is sick of seeing these anti-authority hicks parading around, and has provided his own trusted weapon to... oh, wait, no, it's just Gail Kim in the rafters, getting around her "banned from ringside" clause. AJ with a Styles Clash to Storm, but Harris with the baton to Styles, and AMW retains. Good match, inventive ending.

 

Backstage with Bore-ass, Zbyszko and some big Canadian who I couldn't care less about. Bore-ass identifies him as A1, but they were a decent boyband from the late 90s and this guy isn't. I'll call im Generic Canadian instead. Zbyszko has his voice back, and his hair looks more... well... existant. Generic Canadian sounds like a doofus. Never let him talk again. In comes SLICK JOHNSON, who knows everything about everyone. This guy might as well be Dave Meltzer, since he informs everyone that we'll find out who the new Jim Cornette of TNA is when a mystery Jim Cornette debuts next month at Slammiversary. Boy, I sure hope it's Jim Cornette. Damn, SLICK has SKIIIILLS. Kid got charisma, and can talk pretty well. I like him. I like Zbyszko too, actually. He's so much better now than he was in WCW.

 

Video for Zbyzsko, D'amore, Raven and gut. It's insane how fast a guy like Raven can run for a guy carrying a gut like Raven is. Generic Canadian is in the ring, and here comes RAVEN AND HIS GUT!!! In from the crowd, and Raven is still my God. His clothes are still awesome, and I love the guy to death, but WHAT HAS HE DONE TO HIS HAIR? It looks so odd. It's white/bleach blond with thin green streaks. It'd look better if his face didn't look so old and broken down. Zbyszko joins the commentary table, whilst Generic Canadian works on Raven. That bleach job has seriously thinned out his hair. It looks terrible. Raven gets control and an Evenflow puts Generic Canadian away. Zbyszko calls Raven back into the ring to sette things once and for all, and the two go at it, despite the security officers (aged 11, 12, 11, 13, 12, 10, 13, and 9) trying to hold them both back.

 

JB is backstage, still boring, still an ass. Speaking of which, he's with Jeff Jarrett and Scott Steiner. Deal Or No Deal ruined this feud. Sting is no Noel Edmunds, even if Steiner could be mistaken for Mr.Blobby and Jarrett could do with a gunging. Jarrett cuts a decent promo for a midcard act, but Road Warrior Steiner shows him how its done. All it needed was a bit of face paint and a "TELL 'EM HAWK" to be complete.

 

Filler match alert. Rhino v Bobby Roode. Come home to ECW please, Rhino. The flower pot forgives you. Pyro for Roode. Why? Break out the streamers while you're here. The War Machine races to the ring with an entrance Tenay apparently loves. Whatever floats your boat. He just ran, Mike. Wasn't like he did triple-jump somersaults with trampolines, or pulled his leg ligaments. Reason 2 why Kevin Nash is the best thing in TNA: Nash makes walking across the ring exciting. I'm not paying much attention to this match, and there's little reason to. No one gains anything here. I'll save you the boring bits, and tell you that Bobby Roode won. Bye Rhino. See you in ECW. Looks like the Roode push begins now. Speaking of which, where is Ron Killings? A traversty.

 

Team 3D promo, talking about how the Dudley Boyz (Z, not S - WWF mode here) beat the New Age Outlaws in WWE, and how they'll do it again. People say that Bubba has good promo skills, but for my money, D-von, BG and even Kip are all better on the microphone. The constant references to the WWE suck ass and TNA doesn't need them, but I guess that's the only way that the fans would care.

 

James Gang in the ring, and BG cuts his spiel that is just wasted on a crowd like that in TNA. Big pop for 3D. Glad to see that Kip doesn't look like a complete pansy tonight. Usual spots from both teams, and for what it is, it's good. Not sure if there is supposed to be a defined babyface/heel divide, but the finish suggests so with BG hitting D-von with the lead-pipe. I love the continuity of using the pipe, but it meant so little back in 2000 that it really means so much less in 2006.

 

Bore-ass with the honour of interviewing a REAL mic master, James Mitchell. Abyss stands in the background, looking pretty as always, whilst Mitchell makes me actually care about the main event. If only TNA booking had done the same thing. Christians reign has been so insanely underwhelming that I almost hope Abyss wins.

 

Back to Mike and The Tool, where they reshow the end of the Lyger/Williams match from the point of freezing. Great move by TNA here. Can't credit them enough for being aware and finding time to slot in the footage, so as not to fully disappoint the paying viewers.

 

More X Cup goodness, and Team USA are winning. Japan are second. I am uncaring. Oooh, but I care now. Here comes Christy, and it's just amazing how much presence and charisma she has. She really puts Tracy to shame as a diva in TNA. Here comes the gauntlet. Reason 3 why Kevin Nash is the best thing in TNA: even when not there, you anticipate his arrival in destroying small filler talents. Puma and Minoru are out first from Japan and Mexico respectively. Nice exchange, just filling time before entrant 3, KEVIN N...no, it's just Petey Williams. He and Minoru tease a double team, but Williams turns on him as retribution for costing him the opening match. Entrant number 4 is KEVIN NASabin, Chris Sabin. Dammit. I love Sabin, but he's no Kevin Nash. And WHERE HAS HIS SEXY HAIR GONE?? Sabin is great, but he looks so w**ky without his hair now. Entrant number 5 is out, and it's KEVIDAMMIT. It's some guy called Goto, or Gotu. I wish they'd gotu get Nash out here right now, but alas. This guy is from Team Japan... that's all I got. No eliminations yet. But that'll change here with entrant 6, KevINCOGNITO? Who the hell? Unless he is about to Jackife some bitches, he's not worth my time. Athletic guy, hitting a springboard backflip off the top rope. I bet Kevin Nash could do that if he wanted to. Of course, he doesn't need to, because he's Kevin Nash. Entrant number 7 is here, with blonde hair, a good build, and a killer smile. OH MY GOD, IT'S KEVIN NO IT'S NOT. Dammit, TNA. It's Johnny Devine of Team Canada. Entrant 8 is not even Kevin Nash. No one could mistake Sonjay Dud for the greatest world champion in wrestling history. No eliminations yet, probably because they're just going to wait until all the boys are in for Kevin Nash to destroy with bar charts. Entrant 9 is Black Tiger, and not Kevin Nash. Why must TNA forsake it's audience? Entrant 10 should be KEVIN NASH... but it's Magno from Team Mexico. Nash could have been a part of Team Japan if he wanted. He boned a korean once, and if that isn't enough credential to be a part of Team Japan, then nothing is. Still 10 little children dancing around the ring, waiting on entrant 11. Said entrant has short blond hair and could possibly be mistaken for a seven foot former WWE champion. I knew I'd recognised him. I am, of course, referring to Eric Young of Team Canada. Both Sonjay and Incognito are apparently out. Who knows/cares. Sonhay is holding his ankle. NOW YOU KNOW HOW KEVIN FELT, YOU SELFISH BRUTE. YOU HEAR ME SONJAY? YOU BRUTE!!!! Ahem, so anyway, there's still an X-division clusterX-cup going on in the ring. Entrant 12 is not Kevin Nash, but it IS the one and only ALEX SHELLEY!!! WHO IS FRIENDS WITH KEVIN NASH!!! Reason 4 why Kevin Nash is the best thing in TNA: Kevin knows Alex Shelley. It's like the circle of complete and utter awesomeness. The saviour of the X-division unleashes, and the fans know it. Devine and Sabin eliminated. Entrant 13 is Jushin Ly... wait, didn't we see him earlier? Jebus Chripes, GIVE US KEVIN NASH ALREADY. Reason 5 why Kevin Nash is the best thing in TNA: Nash doesn't need a mask or a power ranger outfit to get over. Just an air of uber-cool, and incredibly well-kept hair. Entrant 14 is... shockingly... SHOCKER. Yeah, he sucks. And Magno is eliminated at the same time. See ya, dude. We never knew ya. Shocker with an interesting elimination of Black Tiger, and HERE COMES KEVIN NASH... DISGUISED AS TYSON DUX. No, actually, it's just Tyson Dux of Team Canada as entrant 15. One more man left from Team USA, and here is is, Jay Lethal as entrant 16. I like this kid a lot, and he's wasted in a worthless competition like this. Minoru is gone thanks to Lethal, and Shocker and Shelley are killing each other with chops of DEATH~! Shocker is eliminated next, followed by Lyger at the hands of Team Canada. It took a bit of persuasion to stop myself from typing Luger instead of Lyger. It's an easy mistake, looking at their ring work... *tumbleweed*... so, back to the match, and Lethal disposes of Eric Young. Bless you, Lethal. Looking so strong before you get killed by the highest grossing champion ever. Dux is thrown over by Shelley, before Shelley eliminates himself over the turnbuckle. Damn that Petey for ducking. Damn him! Lethal is eliminated via the power of kick, and Petey drills home the Canadian Destroer on Puma for the 1-2-3. Team Canada and Team USA are now tied, as Penzer can't remember the winners name. But wait... can it be? I can hear money in TNA's pocket... YES, IT'S KEVIN NASH, MOTHERFUNKERS~~~~!!! TNA IS SAVED!!! No doubt, it simply took the duration of the match for Nash to finally hit the ring. What perfect timing. Nash picks up that loser Puma, and JACKNIFE POWERBOMBS HIM TO HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!! AND A BIG BOOT FOR ADDED MEASURE!!!!! Puma's stock just went up by millions, simply by being in the ring with such a proven draw like Nash. NOW HE HAS A MIC TOO!!! I swear, three people have just this minute brought the PPV to catch this moment. YES KEVIN, YOU ARE THE MEDIOCRE-IST OF THEM ALL, AND YOU STILL DESTROOOOYED HIM. I LOVE YOU. DRAVEN <3 KEVIN NASH!!! I wish Don West would just shut up. YOU ARE PRETTY DAMN GOOD. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT TO SAY!!! WHY MUST TNA MOCK YOU??? WHY MUST DON WEST KEEP TALKING??? WHY AM I TYPING IN CAPS SO MUCH??? Size matters big time. Just ask my girlfriend LOLPENISJOKE!!! Oh get bent, Tenay. Following up a Nash segment with the league scores. Go away Tenay, go away West. Stop moaning. You never drew thousands to Madison Square Garden, did you?? DID YOU??

 

Back to Bore-ass, with Samoa Joe. He talks fine, but his voice dosn't suit the delivery. Stop talking, start killing. Video of Deal Or No Deal, and Sting really isn't funny. Shame, he's still a good mic worker. This video reminds me of qhat Jayden said to me. Why didn't Jarrett or Steiner just kill Sting in the ring each week? He was standing right next to them. See, TNA fanboys can say WWE feuds make no sense, but TNA angles are real flawed too sometimes. Most times, actually.

 

Scott Steiner out first, and PPV carriers all over the nation have their finger firmly hovering over the censor button. Accompanied by the Diarrhoea of Korea, Gail Kim, here comes WWF midcard act Jeff Jarrett. People kept saying he was WCW champion, but no one cared about that belt in 2000. Samoa Joe to the ring, and Joe, you're a killer but YOUR MUSIC SUCKS COMPLETE AND UTTER ASS. Taz and Goldberg completely own you on music alone. And now, this iiiiiiiiiiiiis Stiiiiiiiiiing. He reminfs me of a lesser gender-bending Dr. Frank-N-Furter from Rocky Horror Picture Show. Does that make Joe his Rocky? No, silly. Rocky was blond and ripped. Joe is tubby and doesn't get to sleep with a slut like Janet. Ugh, Samoa Joe's name still sounds silly when Tenay says it. Ah well. So it's California Sting and Tennessee Jeff to start. California Sting in control, and the tag is eventually made to Michigan Scott. Wow, I hate when people like California Sting hit a Vader Bomb. Unless it is Rocky Mountain Vader hitting it, it looks crap. Had California Sting stood up and fallen on his arse afterwards, I'd have forgiven him. Tag to Samoa Joe, and the fans are into this. Michigan Scott with control, but Samoa Joe unloads. Michigan Scott with suplexes. Seriously, how much can one man love suplexes? Old school Tennessee Jeff strut, bringing back memories of 1998. What Tennessee Jeff match doesn't, though? His whole persona is that of 1998. Could be worse, mind. California Sting is still stuck in 1997. Michigan Scott could get stuck anywhere. Have you seen his arms? He's rip my doorframe right off its hinges just by flexing in its direction. California Sting taken advantage of, until the hot tag to Samoa Joe. Did the California Stinger Splash always suck? His elevation seems all off now. Virginia Tony Schiavone once called him the best leaper in the business but Shelton Benjamin has him wiped. Samoa Joe kicks out of the Stroke, and Musclebusters Tennessee Jeff for the 3. Nice of Tennessee Jeff to put him over cleanly. Michigan Scott clocks California Sting with the chair, but Samoa Joe refuses to save him. Fair enough, I guess. Steiner Recliner, and the bell rings. Why, I'm not sure. Michigan Sabin, Texas Kip, New Jersey Lethal, City Of Angels Christopher, Georgia BG and Michigan Rhyno (what is it with Michigan?) come out for the save.

 

Video package for Captain Charisma and Abyss, and boy does it come off as a second rate feud now. My concern with Christian is that he's great for TNA and not good enough for WWE, so I scare that he doesn't care enough to try hard in there. Not that he's been booked really well. Promo with Christian and Bore-ass. Again, another issue with Christian is that his voice sounds so forced. Too much humour for a feud that is supposed to be so serious. At least his catchphrase is over here though.

 

Interesting idea, showing Abyss coming down to the actual stage. WWE used to do this, and don't really do it enough anymore. Abyss out first, with NWA title and James Mitchell. 20 minutes left, and here comes CC, complete with Evanescence-rip off music. For some stupid, non-sensical reason, Jeremy Bore-ass is in the ring introducing the competitors. Why? Penzer is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR superior to this idiot. I know TNA did these intros first, but the Wrestlemania 22 version was far better. Bore-ass, do me a favour - never say Captain Charisma again. EVER! Finishers teased early, and soon they're out in the crowd brawling away. I miss WWE main events like this. Earl Hebner is the referee, if anyone cares. Credit to Christian, he takes some harsh bumps for a Hollywood-bound champion. Abyss tries for a leapover in the corner, but Christian kicks him in the balls. I LOVE that spot, so much. Tables are aplenty now, and Abyss is taking too many crazy bumps for a guy his size. This man would have been a champion in ECW. Chain in play, with Christian choking Abyss on the second rope, only for Abyss to pull him down through a table on the outside. TNA has so few ladder matches. It's nice to have a non-cage match for once. They do the usual ladder falling spot very awkwardly. Didn't work with such a small ladder. In comes James Mitchell, and what a surprise... an Abyss match with thumbtacks. This spot has lost all meaning due to a) overusing, and b) the fire spot from Wrestlemania. Mitchell into the tacks, in a nice change of pace, before Cage hits a decent frog spash off the ladder through the table. Decent, but not as good as the Shawn elbow drop from Mania. Cage gets the belt, and I couldn't care less. A pointless feud over, and Abyss will probably never get the belt now. Slammiversary in a month, but for now... er... yeah, who knows.

 

On the whole, a decent PPV. The matches were fine, but the whole PPV was underwhelming. Too many filler matches and not enough compelling angles for people to get behind. No better than any other PPV this year. Not the worst, but certainly not the best. It was just... there.

 

On the plus, KEVIN NASH~~~!!! Finally, a reason to watch TNA.

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We open Sacrifice with a cool, if not all too familiar opening video. The Impact Zone is crowded with the usual TNA fans, with their TNA chants. If they're not stealing from WCW, they're stealing from ECW. Mike Tenay with Don "The Tool" West, and we're kicking off with some cup thingie. Seriously, could they have done less to make the World X Cup mean anything? Reason 1 why Kevin Nash is the best thing in TNA: the X-division IS filler, as evidenced here.

 

Dave Penzer is YOUR ring announcer, and whether WCW or not, the guy is still a million and one times better than Jeremy Bore-ass. Sadly, Penzer lacks the trademark muffled sound that he had back in his glory days. The Japanese arcade game music means that Jushin Lyger is on his way to the ring, for what should be a good opening bout. Streamers fill the ring, surely crippling TNA's yearly production budget, and an abrupt change in music means OOOOH CAAANADAAA. EVERYBODY RISE, FOR THE PLAYING OF THE CANADIAN NATIONAL ANTHEM. Staring at the stage for ten seconds reminds me of the days of having the lovely Lollipop and her lovely behind to stare at. Oh how I miss those days. Looking back, TNA was great back then. Petey Williams is out, and the first of a million wrestler pyro displays goes off. I'm pretty sure everyone has pyro now. Even Jeremy Bore-ass probably has pyro. West and Tenay babble about some scores that mean nothing to me, and I get a giggle out of West calling Lyger a great wrestler. Oh, he's not lying, but I await the moment of Don "The Knowledge Bucket" West screaming over that flying kick to the face when someone hits a dropkick. I can't keep up/be arsed in order to play-by-play this, but it's all good until Team Japan jump Petey on the outside. Not a very babyface thing to do. I presume Jushin is the babyface in this. You know, babyfaces and heels... good guys and bad guys... remember that logical, important part of wrestling, TNA? As an aside, a mere two minutes and no "This Is Awesome" chants? This crowd is failing me. But wait... dueling chants for all of ten seconds. There we go. Can't have these fans not trying to put themselves over. Some nice back and forth action between the two, and Jushin sells the DDT with much hilarity (made more hilarious with the mask on). Petey sets up the Canadian Destroyer but falls to a palm thrust. Jushin holds Petey up and goes for a powerbo... o... o... o... o... wow, he's up there a long time. Weird, nobody is moving. Everyone seems to have gone silent. The awe for such a move is incredible, and I kinda prefer TNA fans this way. At this point, whoever is watching the PPV checks his on-screen TV guide to no effect. C'mon TNA. If you're gonna freeze the shot, do it on something like So Cal Val, not Williams with a power ranger growing out of his crotch. You're not going to spike the PPV buys this way. Unrelatedly, we're missing National Lampoon's European Vacation for this.

 

And we're back with a shot of Stings locker room door. What a way to make an angry viewer feel better. Even a shot of Joe helps none. Tenay tells us that Lyger won. Great. Glad I saw the one. Tenay and West run down the PPV matches before sending it back to Bore-ass with AMW, Gail Kim and Jackie Haas. Kim, as always, looks hot from the neck down. Jackie is crying, probably because they promised her that someone competant would conduct the interview. Like Scott Hudson. Boy do I miss him. Chris Harris takes the mike and talks up a storm (not literally), whilst the real Storm downs a bottle o'brewski. Storm talks, and Jackie still cries. Makes sense. God, she's a terrible actress. Crying doesn't involve doing the time warp, hun. Bore-ass asks the matter, and Jackie reveals that she is pregnant. WOOOAAAH! Everyone jumps up at attention. I see TNA banned the Wrestling Observer from all events. Gail and her face OF DOOM (screw you, Scott Keith) fire Jackie, and leaves.

 

Video package for the new DREAM TEAM. No, not SPIRIT SQUAD~! but rather AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels. We start the match, and AJ shows, get this, CHARISMA. I know, I nearly had convulsions just thinking about it. Typical tag team formula. Babyface advantage, heel advantage, hot tag, West talking bollocks. The tower of suplexbomb is attempted, but Daniels holds himself at the top and lets the rest fall, before hitting a crossbody on Harris. Brawl in the crowd, before going back into the ring where Harris hits a good spear on Daniels, showing why Edge's spear looks so bad. Harris actually tackled him down. Edge just grazes. Some nice double team moves are implemented, and West goes CRAZY at Daniels breaking up a cover. Seriously, you've never heard a guy see a save as something so incredible. The action continues until a baton falls from heaven. Seriously, I think Big Boss Man is sick of seeing these anti-authority hicks parading around, and has provided his own trusted weapon to... oh, wait, no, it's just Gail Kim in the rafters, getting around her "banned from ringside" clause. AJ with a Styles Clash to Storm, but Harris with the baton to Styles, and AMW retains. Good match, inventive ending.

 

Backstage with Bore-ass, Zbyszko and some big Canadian who I couldn't care less about. Bore-ass identifies him as A1, but they were a decent boyband from the late 90s and this guy isn't. I'll call im Generic Canadian instead. Zbyszko has his voice back, and his hair looks more... well... existant. Generic Canadian sounds like a doofus. Never let him talk again. In comes SLICK JOHNSON, who knows everything about everyone. This guy might as well be Dave Meltzer, since he informs everyone that we'll find out who the new Jim Cornette of TNA is when a mystery Jim Cornette debuts next month at Slammiversary. Boy, I sure hope it's Jim Cornette. Damn, SLICK has SKIIIILLS. Kid got charisma, and can talk pretty well. I like him. I like Zbyszko too, actually. He's so much better now than he was in WCW.

 

Video for Zbyzsko, D'amore, Raven and gut. It's insane how fast a guy like Raven can run for a guy carrying a gut like Raven is. Generic Canadian is in the ring, and here comes RAVEN AND HIS GUT!!! In from the crowd, and Raven is still my God. His clothes are still awesome, and I love the guy to death, but WHAT HAS HE DONE TO HIS HAIR? It looks so odd. It's white/bleach blond with thin green streaks. It'd look better if his face didn't look so old and broken down. Zbyszko joins the commentary table, whilst Generic Canadian works on Raven. That bleach job has seriously thinned out his hair. It looks terrible. Raven gets control and an Evenflow puts Generic Canadian away. Zbyszko calls Raven back into the ring to sette things once and for all, and the two go at it, despite the security officers (aged 11, 12, 11, 13, 12, 10, 13, and 9) trying to hold them both back.

 

JB is backstage, still boring, still an ass. Speaking of which, he's with Jeff Jarrett and Scott Steiner. Deal Or No Deal ruined this feud. Sting is no Noel Edmunds, even if Steiner could be mistaken for Mr.Blobby and Jarrett could do with a gunging. Jarrett cuts a decent promo for a midcard act, but Road Warrior Steiner shows him how its done. All it needed was a bit of face paint and a "TELL 'EM HAWK" to be complete.

 

Filler match alert. Rhino v Bobby Roode. Come home to ECW please, Rhino. The flower pot forgives you. Pyro for Roode. Why? Break out the streamers while you're here. The War Machine races to the ring with an entrance Tenay apparently loves. Whatever floats your boat. He just ran, Mike. Wasn't like he did triple-jump somersaults with trampolines, or pulled his leg ligaments. Reason 2 why Kevin Nash is the best thing in TNA: Nash makes walking across the ring exciting. I'm not paying much attention to this match, and there's little reason to. No one gains anything here. I'll save you the boring bits, and tell you that Bobby Roode won. Bye Rhino. See you in ECW. Looks like the Roode push begins now. Speaking of which, where is Ron Killings? A traversty.

 

Team 3D promo, talking about how the Dudley Boyz (Z, not S - WWF mode here) beat the New Age Outlaws in WWE, and how they'll do it again. People say that Bubba has good promo skills, but for my money, D-von, BG and even Kip are all better on the microphone. The constant references to the WWE suck ass and TNA doesn't need them, but I guess that's the only way that the fans would care.

 

James Gang in the ring, and BG cuts his spiel that is just wasted on a crowd like that in TNA. Big pop for 3D. Glad to see that Kip doesn't look like a complete pansy tonight. Usual spots from both teams, and for what it is, it's good. Not sure if there is supposed to be a defined babyface/heel divide, but the finish suggests so with BG hitting D-von with the lead-pipe. I love the continuity of using the pipe, but it meant so little back in 2000 that it really means so much less in 2006.

 

Bore-ass with the honour of interviewing a REAL mic master, James Mitchell. Abyss stands in the background, looking pretty as always, whilst Mitchell makes me actually care about the main event. If only TNA booking had done the same thing. Christians reign has been so insanely underwhelming that I almost hope Abyss wins.

 

Back to Mike and The Tool, where they reshow the end of the Lyger/Williams match from the point of freezing. Great move by TNA here. Can't credit them enough for being aware and finding time to slot in the footage, so as not to fully disappoint the paying viewers.

 

More X Cup goodness, and Team USA are winning. Japan are second. I am uncaring. Oooh, but I care now. Here comes Christy, and it's just amazing how much presence and charisma she has. She really puts Tracy to shame as a diva in TNA. Here comes the gauntlet. Reason 3 why Kevin Nash is the best thing in TNA: even when not there, you anticipate his arrival in destroying small filler talents. Puma and Minoru are out first from Japan and Mexico respectively. Nice exchange, just filling time before entrant 3, KEVIN N...no, it's just Petey Williams. He and Minoru tease a double team, but Williams turns on him as retribution for costing him the opening match. Entrant number 4 is KEVIN NASabin, Chris Sabin. Dammit. I love Sabin, but he's no Kevin Nash. And WHERE HAS HIS SEXY HAIR GONE?? Sabin is great, but he looks so w**ky without his hair now. Entrant number 5 is out, and it's KEVIDAMMIT. It's some guy called Goto, or Gotu. I wish they'd gotu get Nash out here right now, but alas. This guy is from Team Japan... that's all I got. No eliminations yet. But that'll change here with entrant 6, KevINCOGNITO? Who the hell? Unless he is about to Jackife some bitches, he's not worth my time. Athletic guy, hitting a springboard backflip off the top rope. I bet Kevin Nash could do that if he wanted to. Of course, he doesn't need to, because he's Kevin Nash. Entrant number 7 is here, with blonde hair, a good build, and a killer smile. OH MY GOD, IT'S KEVIN NO IT'S NOT. Dammit, TNA. It's Johnny Devine of Team Canada. Entrant 8 is not even Kevin Nash. No one could mistake Sonjay Dud for the greatest world champion in wrestling history. No eliminations yet, probably because they're just going to wait until all the boys are in for Kevin Nash to destroy with bar charts. Entrant 9 is Black Tiger, and not Kevin Nash. Why must TNA forsake it's audience? Entrant 10 should be KEVIN NASH... but it's Magno from Team Mexico. Nash could have been a part of Team Japan if he wanted. He boned a korean once, and if that isn't enough credential to be a part of Team Japan, then nothing is. Still 10 little children dancing around the ring, waiting on entrant 11. Said entrant has short blond hair and could possibly be mistaken for a seven foot former WWE champion. I knew I'd recognised him. I am, of course, referring to Eric Young of Team Canada. Both Sonjay and Incognito are apparently out. Who knows/cares. Sonhay is holding his ankle. NOW YOU KNOW HOW KEVIN FELT, YOU SELFISH BRUTE. YOU HEAR ME SONJAY? YOU BRUTE!!!! Ahem, so anyway, there's still an X-division clusterX-cup going on in the ring. Entrant 12 is not Kevin Nash, but it IS the one and only ALEX SHELLEY!!! WHO IS FRIENDS WITH KEVIN NASH!!! Reason 4 why Kevin Nash is the best thing in TNA: Kevin knows Alex Shelley. It's like the circle of complete and utter awesomeness. The saviour of the X-division unleashes, and the fans know it. Devine and Sabin eliminated. Entrant 13 is Jushin Ly... wait, didn't we see him earlier? Jebus Chripes, GIVE US KEVIN NASH ALREADY. Reason 5 why Kevin Nash is the best thing in TNA: Nash doesn't need a mask or a power ranger outfit to get over. Just an air of uber-cool, and incredibly well-kept hair. Entrant 14 is... shockingly... SHOCKER. Yeah, he sucks. And Magno is eliminated at the same time. See ya, dude. We never knew ya. Shocker with an interesting elimination of Black Tiger, and HERE COMES KEVIN NASH... DISGUISED AS TYSON DUX. No, actually, it's just Tyson Dux of Team Canada as entrant 15. One more man left from Team USA, and here is is, Jay Lethal as entrant 16. I like this kid a lot, and he's wasted in a worthless competition like this. Minoru is gone thanks to Lethal, and Shocker and Shelley are killing each other with chops of DEATH~! Shocker is eliminated next, followed by Lyger at the hands of Team Canada. It took a bit of persuasion to stop myself from typing Luger instead of Lyger. It's an easy mistake, looking at their ring work... *tumbleweed*... so, back to the match, and Lethal disposes of Eric Young. Bless you, Lethal. Looking so strong before you get killed by the highest grossing champion ever. Dux is thrown over by Shelley, before Shelley eliminates himself over the turnbuckle. Damn that Petey for ducking. Damn him! Lethal is eliminated via the power of kick, and Petey drills home the Canadian Destroer on Puma for the 1-2-3. Team Canada and Team USA are now tied, as Penzer can't remember the winners name. But wait... can it be? I can hear money in TNA's pocket... YES, IT'S KEVIN NASH, MOTHERFUNKERS~~~~!!! TNA IS SAVED!!! No doubt, it simply took the duration of the match for Nash to finally hit the ring. What perfect timing. Nash picks up that loser Puma, and JACKNIFE POWERBOMBS HIM TO HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!! AND A BIG BOOT FOR ADDED MEASURE!!!!! Puma's stock just went up by millions, simply by being in the ring with such a proven draw like Nash. NOW HE HAS A MIC TOO!!! I swear, three people have just this minute brought the PPV to catch this moment. YES KEVIN, YOU ARE THE MEDIOCRE-IST OF THEM ALL, AND YOU STILL DESTROOOOYED HIM. I LOVE YOU. DRAVEN <3 KEVIN NASH!!! I wish Don West would just shut up. YOU ARE PRETTY DAMN GOOD. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT TO SAY!!! WHY MUST TNA MOCK YOU??? WHY MUST DON WEST KEEP TALKING??? WHY AM I TYPING IN CAPS SO MUCH??? Size matters big time. Just ask my girlfriend LOLPENISJOKE!!! Oh get bent, Tenay. Following up a Nash segment with the league scores. Go away Tenay, go away West. Stop moaning. You never drew thousands to Madison Square Garden, did you?? DID YOU??

 

Back to Bore-ass, with Samoa Joe. He talks fine, but his voice dosn't suit the delivery. Stop talking, start killing. Video of Deal Or No Deal, and Sting really isn't funny. Shame, he's still a good mic worker. This video reminds me of qhat Jayden said to me. Why didn't Jarrett or Steiner just kill Sting in the ring each week? He was standing right next to them. See, TNA fanboys can say WWE feuds make no sense, but TNA angles are real flawed too sometimes. Most times, actually.

 

Scott Steiner out first, and PPV carriers all over the nation have their finger firmly hovering over the censor button. Accompanied by the Diarrhoea of Korea, Gail Kim, here comes WWF midcard act Jeff Jarrett. People kept saying he was WCW champion, but no one cared about that belt in 2000. Samoa Joe to the ring, and Joe, you're a killer but YOUR MUSIC SUCKS COMPLETE AND UTTER ASS. Taz and Goldberg completely own you on music alone. And now, this iiiiiiiiiiiiis Stiiiiiiiiiing. He reminfs me of a lesser gender-bending Dr. Frank-N-Furter from Rocky Horror Picture Show. Does that make Joe his Rocky? No, silly. Rocky was blond and ripped. Joe is tubby and doesn't get to sleep with a slut like Janet. Ugh, Samoa Joe's name still sounds silly when Tenay says it. Ah well. So it's California Sting and Tennessee Jeff to start. California Sting in control, and the tag is eventually made to Michigan Scott. Wow, I hate when people like California Sting hit a Vader Bomb. Unless it is Rocky Mountain Vader hitting it, it looks crap. Had California Sting stood up and fallen on his arse afterwards, I'd have forgiven him. Tag to Samoa Joe, and the fans are into this. Michigan Scott with control, but Samoa Joe unloads. Michigan Scott with suplexes. Seriously, how much can one man love suplexes? Old school Tennessee Jeff strut, bringing back memories of 1998. What Tennessee Jeff match doesn't, though? His whole persona is that of 1998. Could be worse, mind. California Sting is still stuck in 1997. Michigan Scott could get stuck anywhere. Have you seen his arms? He's rip my doorframe right off its hinges just by flexing in its direction. California Sting taken advantage of, until the hot tag to Samoa Joe. Did the California Stinger Splash always suck? His elevation seems all off now. Virginia Tony Schiavone once called him the best leaper in the business but Shelton Benjamin has him wiped. Samoa Joe kicks out of the Stroke, and Musclebusters Tennessee Jeff for the 3. Nice of Tennessee Jeff to put him over cleanly. Michigan Scott clocks California Sting with the chair, but Samoa Joe refuses to save him. Fair enough, I guess. Steiner Recliner, and the bell rings. Why, I'm not sure. Michigan Sabin, Texas Kip, New Jersey Lethal, City Of Angels Christopher, Georgia BG and Michigan Rhyno (what is it with Michigan?) come out for the save.

 

Video package for Captain Charisma and Abyss, and boy does it come off as a second rate feud now. My concern with Christian is that he's great for TNA and not good enough for WWE, so I scare that he doesn't care enough to try hard in there. Not that he's been booked really well. Promo with Christian and Bore-ass. Again, another issue with Christian is that his voice sounds so forced. Too much humour for a feud that is supposed to be so serious. At least his catchphrase is over here though.

 

Interesting idea, showing Abyss coming down to the actual stage. WWE used to do this, and don't really do it enough anymore. Abyss out first, with NWA title and James Mitchell. 20 minutes left, and here comes CC, complete with Evanescence-rip off music. For some stupid, non-sensical reason, Jeremy Bore-ass is in the ring introducing the competitors. Why? Penzer is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR superior to this idiot. I know TNA did these intros first, but the Wrestlemania 22 version was far better. Bore-ass, do me a favour - never say Captain Charisma again. EVER! Finishers teased early, and soon they're out in the crowd brawling away. I miss WWE main events like this. Earl Hebner is the referee, if anyone cares. Credit to Christian, he takes some harsh bumps for a Hollywood-bound champion. Abyss tries for a leapover in the corner, but Christian kicks him in the balls. I LOVE that spot, so much. Tables are aplenty now, and Abyss is taking too many crazy bumps for a guy his size. This man would have been a champion in ECW. Chain in play, with Christian choking Abyss on the second rope, only for Abyss to pull him down through a table on the outside. TNA has so few ladder matches. It's nice to have a non-cage match for once. They do the usual ladder falling spot very awkwardly. Didn't work with such a small ladder. In comes James Mitchell, and what a surprise... an Abyss match with thumbtacks. This spot has lost all meaning due to a) overusing, and b) the fire spot from Wrestlemania. Mitchell into the tacks, in a nice change of pace, before Cage hits a decent frog spash off the ladder through the table. Decent, but not as good as the Shawn elbow drop from Mania. Cage gets the belt, and I couldn't care less. A pointless feud over, and Abyss will probably never get the belt now. Slammiversary in a month, but for now... er... yeah, who knows.

 

On the whole, a decent PPV. The matches were fine, but the whole PPV was underwhelming. Too many filler matches and not enough compelling angles for people to get behind. No better than any other PPV this year. Not the worst, but certainly not the best. It was just... there.

 

On the plus, KEVIN NASH~~~!!! Finally, a reason to watch TNA.

 

Wow, thats negative for the sake of being negative. Who wrote that?

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Wow' date=' thats negative for the sake of being negative. Who wrote that?[/quote']

 

a WWE fan

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Well yeah, but that's to say that TNA fans didn't dislike the PPV, and I know of a lot that did. I gave TNA plenty of credit for what they did right, but they really didn't do a lot right. Bare in mind, the review was tongue-in-cheek in a lot of places (the love for Nash is an obvious one), but yeah, it really wasn't all that good a PPV. Certainly far from TNAs best by miles.

 

Laffo at Dave accusing someone else of being negative for the sake of being negative though.

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I did' date=' last night, whilst watching the show :)[/quote']

 

Oh right, I watched the show last night too. I just watched it mind I didn't find the need to write a novel about how much it sucked at the same time. Maybe you should have just you know sat back and watched it maybe it wouldn't have annoyed you so much? ;)

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Oh right' date=' I watched the show last night too. I just watched it mind I didn't find the need to write a novel about how much it sucked at the same time. Maybe you should have just you know sat back and watched it maybe it wouldn't have annoyed you so much? ;)[/quote']

What difference would it have made had I watched it with or without writing about it? It still was an underwhelming PPV. It wouldn't have mattered whether I'd have watched it alone, with company, upside down, wearing a Superman suit, drinking alchol, composing music, it would make no difference. It was still very poor by supposed TNA standards. Decent on the whole, but even TNA fanboys can't convincingly argue to me why this PPV was anything more than that.

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I thought it was fine, not their best offering ever, but still it delivered in the right areas. Joe pinned Jarrett clean, the X-Gauntlet was much fun, it's always cool to see Lyger anywhere, Christian and Abyss had another classic, I don't know why you think the fued is pointless???!!!?!?!? Nash is carrying his new gimmick well and didn't hurt the match. And team 3D and the James gang had a hell of a match which surprised me!

 

Thing is about that review you did, it comes accross as if the second the show started you wanted to hate it, so you picked on things for the sake of it. You hate Jeremy Borash, fine. Do you hate Michael Cole?

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Christian and Abyss had another classic' date=' I don't know why you think the fued is pointless???!!!?!?!?[/quote']

Lol, a classic. Not even MOTY, let alone a classic. Was good, mind. I even said so, but not a classic at all. LOL.

 

Nash is carrying his new gimmick well and didn't hurt the match.

Agreed, and I said so too.

 

And team 3D and the James gang had a hell of a match which surprised me!

I think I praised that match too. So yeah, you're really not doing very well here.

 

Thing is about that review you did' date=' it comes accross as if the second the show started you wanted to hate it, so you picked on things for the sake of it.[/quote']

Actually, *shock horror*, I picked on things that I actually didn't like. I know, actually being negative for a real reason. I know, it's hard for a TNA fan to take their precious product being criticised when they can criticise WWE until the cows come home, but most of the stuff I picked upon was stuff I generally didn't like.

 

You hate Jeremy Borash' date=' fine. Do you hate Michael Cole?[/quote']

I'm not his biggest fan, no. What's your point?

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Lol, a classic. Not even MOTY, let alone a classic. Was good, mind. I even said so, but not a classic at all. LOL.

 

 

Agreed, and I said so too.

 

 

I think I praised that match too. So yeah, you're really not doing very well here.

 

 

Actually, *shock horror*, I picked on things that I actually didn't like. I know, actually being negative for a real reason. I know, it's hard for a TNA fan to take their precious product being criticised when they can criticise WWE until the cows come home, but most of the stuff I picked upon was stuff I generally didn't like.

 

 

I'm not his biggest fan, no. What's your point?

 

Point is Draven, if I did a similarly negative review about the upcoming Judgement Day I would be banned! Yet I wouldn't because I like things about both promotions, yeah I guess I'm a wrestling fan, I'm sorry. I don't have any reason to stay "loyal" to something that has let me down so much in the last 5 years as WWE did. I still watch WWE, I will always watch it, I grew up watching it, but if another promotion comes along and it tries very hard to show pro wrestling each week and not Vince McMahon stroking his ego, I'll enjoy that more! I became interested in wrestling by seeing matches each week, wondering who could possibly beat the Hart Foundation? WWE's ppv's every month do not give the same quality show as TNA. And that is my opinion of course, but still an opinion of somone who grew up with WWF and WCW and just got bored of the now renound bullshit that is defended as "Sports Entertainment". Give me a Bret Hart vs Mr.Perfect anyday of the week and stick your Candice Michelle making out with Vince McMahon segments onto "The very worst DVD in the world ever". TNA have a better grasp on things at the moment, Samoa Joe IS the best wrestler on the planet (in my opinion) and they are making him look that way, the X- Division IS 100 times more exciting than WWE's cruiser division, no doubt. I was always a fan of cruisers and Japanese stars so I enjoy the action and actual legitimate respect that TNA give these guys, they don't need to become gay cheerleaders to have a match.

 

Point is, anyone can do a negative review of something they don't want to like.I wont bother doing Judgement Day for two reasons, a) fear of being banned, and b) I have no interest in seeing such a poor card.

 

Oh yeah, and all of the quotes of mine you put down.... I wasn't actually answering you, I was just giving my take on the show, how I saw it, as was the title of the thread.

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Point is Draven' date=' if I did a similarly negative review about the upcoming Judgement Day I would be banned![/quote']

If Judgment Day was bad, I don't see why you'd be banned. I don't have high hopes for it at all. I didn't even know that it was this Sunday. If that's your only true point, then I can't see you being banned for giving your opinion as long as it is fair. I pride what I wrote as being both somewhat humerous and also pretty fair as well as loyal to my personal opinion (bar the Nash thing - I liked it, but not THAT much).

 

Point is' date=' anyone can do a negative review of something they don't want to like.[/quote']

Yeah, you need to stop using that line o' bulls**t there. There's a difference between not wanting to like something, and not liking something. The Impacts leading into Sacrifice should have made me want to hate it because they were the drizzling s**ts. No compelling angles, a title scene buried under a horrible Deal Or No Deal storyline, a tag team feud that peaked in 2000 and a wasted X-Cup that they gave me no reason to like. I can't accept a match just because it's "two good wrestlers giving what they got". That crap won't fly with me. Give me an awesome atmosphere and a reason to care, and I will. Hence I still love the McMahon/Shawn storyline when so many others wanted to hate it from the get-go. Yes, people watching WWE can do that too. People can say all the bad things about RAWs wrestling all they want, but it has some strong storylines right now, giving rhyme and reason for things.

 

As it IS, I went in with an open mind because inevitably, TNA PPVs usually DO deliver. This one, for lack of a better word, didn't. Simple as.

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Samoa Joe IS the best wrestler on the planet (in my opinion) and they are making him look that way.
I agree they are making Joe look like a serious threat to anyone on the TNA roster, and I know it is your opinion, but are you telling me that there is no other wrestler on the entire planet better than Samoa Joe?
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I agree they are making Joe look like a serious threat to anyone on the TNA roster' date=' and I know it is your opinion, but are you telling me that there is no other wrestler on the entire planet better than Samoa Joe?[/quote']

 

Yes, I've been quite sure about this for about 18 months.

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