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Ok, so some people hate John Cena, most people hate Shawn Michaels, sane people hate TNA but those are all big, sweeping topics, I'm looking for the little niggly things about wrestling that annoy you ever so slightly.

 

For instance (and there are a lot more that I have once the ball starts rolling and I put some thought into it), I hate the indy standoff of moronic tomfoolery. That stupid ass thing that RVD and Jerry Lynn made famous where a couple of two bit indy wrestlers do some Headlock-Hammerlock reversal sequence or whatever and then do a standoff followed by the idiotic sheep in the audience applauding like they just invented the wheel.

 

I also hate that spot where one guy is laying on the mat close to the turnbuckle and the other guy is on the turnbuckle and jumps off with a 'Ok, I'm going to get you this time, sucka. Oh dear I appeared to have jumped straight into your raised boot' type thing. What the hell was the jumper going for anyway? It never ever looks good.

 

So...proceed.

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Yeah, just to back up the embarrassment in the presence of non-marks, a few weeks ago my bestish friend was all "I saw a wrestling match yesterday." At which point I got excited about the prospect of another JR convert (2 and a half and counting) until she said "Two chicks were fighting on ECW.."

 

My one chance to impress Sarah with the amazingness of wrestling, she she sees the Kelly Kelly v Layla 'match'. :(

 

wow that sucks

Did you even watch any of those matches I listed? They were all damn good matches.

 

You seem to misunderstand what it means to be a good worker.

 

Being able to jump six different ways of the buckles is not a good worker.

 

Being able to get the crowd excited when you are basically doing nothing (Hogan v Warrior doing the Greco-Roman knucklelock at WMVI is a great example) is a good worker.

 

Until you can back up your points with a legible response (i.e. learn to spell and stuff), your argument will not be taken seriously.

 

 

have u watched daniels/joe/styles, low ki/amazing red, abyss/styles?

 

these matches are well worked and are fun to watch

have u watched daniels/joe/styles, low ki/amazing red, abyss/styles?

 

these matches are well worked and are fun to watch

 

...which means that WWE matches arent?

have u watched daniels/joe/styles, low ki/amazing red, abyss/styles?

 

these matches are well worked and are fun to watch

Daniels/Joe/Styles matches are damn good, as are Abyss v Styles. As for Amazing Red v Low-Ki, that isn't wrestling. That stupid "Matrix" sequence they did was embarrassing for all to watch it was so obviously choreographed in advance.

 

And if you have to mention TNA matches, I give you Harris v Storm wearing a blindfold (which is the go-to match for a sh*t TNA match), Black Reign and Rellik.

 

Jumping around does not make a good match, just the same as not jumping around does not make a bad match.

 

Look at what was considered one of the matches of the year, Cena v Umage from the Royal Rumble. That match was a fantastically worked piece, showcasing both men while not leaving either man weak. You seem to be of the mindset that Jack Evans (earlier years) is the pinnacle of a worker because of how much motion he has in a match.

 

Jack Evans, or Amazing Red since you brought his name up, can pop a crowd by jumping from the ropes to the floor and twisting three rotations. Hulk Hogan can pop a crowd by pointing his finger. That should tell you all you need to know about better workers.

 

Oh, and don't confuse the ability to work with wrestling ability either.

 

My one chance to impress Sarah with the amazingness of wrestling, she she sees the Kelly Kelly v Layla 'match'. :(

 

Could have been worse, could have been Boogeyman vs The Dicks. I stopped trying to convert people without checking shows in advance after that night.

And Nigel doing that spot where he bounces between the middle and top rope like 4 times in one match.

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Thats one of his signature moves/finishers.

One thing I hate, and I have not read every post so excuse me if it has being done, is squash matches. Sure they make Mr So and So look cool but you can do that just as easily in a proper contest. Who wants to see a one sided match?
I disagree, squash matches have their place and I for one am a big fan of them in the right context.

 

Take Brock Lesnar for example: If he had debuted and simply had competetive matches with everybody, it would have hurt him. Who would want to see that?

 

Same with Goldberg. His squashes are what made him the star he became.

One thing I hate, and I have not read every post so excuse me if it has being done, is squash matches. Sure they make Mr So and So look cool but you can do that just as easily in a proper contest. Who wants to see a one sided match?

 

WTF? Squash matches are totally necessary! You can't give away all the possible match ups every week or whats the point about tuning into PPVs etc to see the same match you saw 2 weeks ago on RAW? Plus the best way to introduce a new character and their moveset and finsihers is to have them face the "enhancement talent" and get over how "good" they are. I think it's a problem that not enough wrestlers get TV wrestling time like they used to in the past. Most wrestling shows had several squashes at the start of the program which meant lots of talent was getting over with a the Tv audience because they seemed to be truly powerful, you didn't get "big" matches from start to finish.

 

If you don't have squashes then what do you do with new guys? Do you have Elijah Burke go over Punk and Morrison on his debut? How do you build up guys as serious threats without devalueing the rest of the roster by having them job week in, week out?

Thats one of his signature moves/finishers.

 

I know that. But does he need to do it that many times in one match? Its overkill IMO. It would be like HBK doing that flip in the corner 4 times in the same match.

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I know some people go nuts for it, but it makes my skin crawl when wrestlers start pulling off their opponent's finishers when they're 'getting desperate to get the job done' in big matches.

 

Case in point Austin vs The Rock (WM 17 & 19). They start hitting the Rock Bottom and Stunners on one another almost like clockwork. Not only does it dumb down what were already good matches but more often than not when someone slse is pulling off their opponents finisher it looks wrong or awkward. Stop it.

 

I also hate when wrestlers are losing their hair and can't just let it go gracefully, cling to their out of date gimmick and pretend they're still 25. Sad.

 

I hate that Kane doesn't do Tombstones anymore.

 

I hate that there's no longer a big pop when Taker or Kane 'slap-on' for the chockslam.

 

I hate when Batista and Cena get uncalled for abuse from smarks. They're both a lot better than they're given credit for.

 

I hate the way 'relationships' are potrayed backstage in wrestling. It's cringeworthy. Except Jamie Noble's spots. Noble for Champion.

 

I can't stand it when commentaters call moves wrong, or wrestlers the wrong name, becasue there's more than two competitors in the ring at once. It's not that confusing.

 

I hate bands playing single song gigs at wrestling shows.

Case in point Austin vs The Rock (WM 17 & 19). They start hitting the Rock Bottom and Stunners on one another almost like clockwork. Not only does it dumb down what were already good matches but more often than not when someone slse is pulling off their opponents finisher it looks wrong or awkward. Stop it.

 

Any other example and you might be right, but for me, in both those matches it worked perfectly.

squash matches definatly have thier place. awesome kong of TNA is one of the best cases of when its done properly
i also hate it when for instance someone like Trish Stratus beats the Big Show, like its believable
I disagree, squash matches have their place and I for one am a big fan of them in the right context.

 

Take Brock Lesnar for example: If he had debuted and simply had competetive matches with everybody, it would have hurt him. Who would want to see that?

 

Same with Goldberg. His squashes are what made him the star he became.

 

Real wrestling fans that actually appriciate good wrestling matches would want to see that. Which one are you Beltmark? :)

Real wrestling fans that actually appriciate good wrestling matches would want to see that. Which one are you Beltmark? :)

 

He for one is a big fan of them in the right context, its right there in his quote. :?

Real wrestling fans that actually appriciate good wrestling matches would want to see that. Which one are you Beltmark? :)

 

That to me Sir, is about as blatant an attempt at flaming you can find!

 

Now trot on Hobbit....trot on......

Real wrestling fans that actually appriciate good wrestling matches would want to see that. Which one are you Beltmark? :)

A fan who actually understands the wrestling business and how to make people look good in front of the fans.

 

I would paint you as ignorant but you're an NWA fan, which had many squash matches in a similar vein back in its glory day. So like MG, I just think you're trolling for fun, Because that's what brings the lulz, right?

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Crockett TV was filled with squash matches, I mean Magnum TA was Goldberg before Goldberg was Goldberg, many of his TV matches rarely went over 60 seconds. Same with Nikita Koloff, The Road Warriors and countless others.

 

Squash matches serve an important role in wrestling.

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Ah everyone just move away from Frenchy and report his posts in future nice and easy really isn't it

OK, I've been turned on squashes for the sake of build, but it can get out of hand. Like Goldberg. His only redeeming quality was his ability to squash. That just gives him an undeserved spot in the roster's hierarchy.

 

Squashes for the sake of a burial annoy me though. In these cases nobody respects the winner, and the loser's often just being punished by management. It devalues the roster. It's just a bad move all around. The most you can get out of them is a single cheap laugh.

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