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Is David Beckham overrated??  

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Personally i feel David Beckham has been an extremely lucky footballer ,he far from deserve's the reputation he has as a GREAT player because he's not.The media portray him as this world-class footballer and people who are'nt REAL football fans buy it why? Why is he considered a footballing hero what as he done to deserve that title? If anyone feels im being harsh please tell me if you've seen something i may not have seen.:?
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he is overrated. A season before he left man utd was his peak it was down hill since then. the guy is good in the US because they have special teams for free kicks (for is that American footbal :-)). all Beckham can do is take free kicks he is a winger with no pace, but i guess in the US it doesn't matter heck his team last year was bottom last season or close to it but then again MLS is a joke
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Firstly I find it insulting that anyone who should think Beckham is a world class player, isnt a 'real fan' what gives you the right to make such a judgement?

 

As for Beckham, in recent years his global image has admittedly overtaken his impact on a pitch, but to call him a lucky footballer is really quite narrow minded.

 

I've never, in all of Beckhams career,seen him go past someone on the wing imagine if Ronaldo or Giggs as wingers did'nt go past people.

 

I suggest you get a DVD of the United Treble winning season of 1999, a huge amount of Yorke & Cole's goals that season came from Beckham on the right flank

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Firstly I find it insulting that anyone who should think Beckham is a world class player, isnt a 'real fan' what gives you the right to make such a judgement?

 

totally agree, i think he isn't a world class player anymore but if people do its there opinion and doesn't make them less of a fan. its a bit like wrestling really the quality of a wrestler is an opinion it depends on what you like to see him do

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Firstly I find it insulting that anyone who should think Beckham is a world class player, isnt a 'real fan' what gives you the right to make such a judgement?

 

As for Beckham, in recent years his global image has admittedly overtaken his impact on a pitch, but to call him a lucky footballer is really quite narrow minded.

 

 

 

I suggest you get a DVD of the United Treble winning season of 1999, a huge amount of Yorke & Cole's goals that season came from Beckham on the right flank

 

Any fan with a smidgen of knowledge about football would know Beckhams not world-class far from it at that,so hows that insulting, the majority of people that think Beckham's great or even good are the part-time fans who watch the important England matches or crazy chinese teenage girls ,now i dont consider them REAL football fans do you?

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Any fan with a smidgen of knowledge about football would know Beckhams not world-class far from it at that,so hows that insulting, the majority of people that think Beckham's great or even good are the part-time fans who watch the important England matches or crazy chinese teenage girls ,now i dont consider them REAL football fans do you?

 

You have failed to grasp, my point. Its your opinion that you feel Beckham isnt world class, but that doesnt make anyone who does any less of a fan.

 

I think he is World Class and I have more than enough knowledge of football to feel that I can make the judgement, so does that make me a part time fan, or any less a fan than you?!

 

If anything, its yourself that is showing the lack of knowledge, when it comes to Beckham, by stating that you have never seen Beckham beat a man, and deliver a cross. As I suggested, I would watch a DVD of Beckham in the United treble winning season.

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You have failed to grasp, my point. Its your opinion that you feel Beckham isnt world class, but that doesnt make anyone who does any less of a fan.

 

I think he is World Class and I have more than enough knowledge of football to feel that I can make the judgement, so does that make me a part time fan, or any less a fan than you?!

 

If anything, its yourself that is showing the lack of knowledge, when it comes to Beckham, by stating that you have never seen Beckham beat a man, and deliver a cross. As I suggested, I would watch a DVD of Beckham in the United treble winning season.

 

that was ten years ago and he was back then, in 2008 he isn't. He shouldn't be in the england squad he plays for a crap team all that man cares about is the money he is a sell out.

 

i am a united fan fegie did the right thing by dropping him, no man is bigger than the team

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Any fan with a smidgen of knowledge about football would know Beckhams not world-class far from it at that,so hows that insulting, the majority of people that think Beckham's great or even good are the part-time fans who watch the important England matches or crazy chinese teenage girls ,now i dont consider them REAL football fans do you?

 

I would suggest theres plenty of evidence to the contrary. To be a first team regular in teams that have won everything worth winning in arguarbly the two best leagues (England and Spain) in the world, as well as the European cup, over 100 international appearances and captaining thier couintry over 50 times suggests a world class player.

 

Im not saying you dont know your football, but im also not willing to say that people who say Beckham isnt world class know more about football than Alex Ferguson, Sven Goran Eriksson, Fabio Cappello etc.

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that was ten years ago and he was back then, in 2008 he isn't. He shouldn't be in the england squad he plays for a crap team all that man cares about is the money he is a sell out.

 

i am a united fan fegie did the right thing by dropping him, no man is bigger than the team

 

My argument was the it was stated that...

 

I've never, in all of Beckhams career,seen him go past someone on the wing imagine if Ronaldo or Giggs as wingers did'nt go past people

 

Which is false....as I stated the is more than enough evidence of Beckham doing this week in, week out for United and Real Madrid

 

But why was Beckham brought back into the England fold? I agree against the Czech's Beckham was poor, but McClaren found out at his peril, no one can deliver a ball like Beckham, which was proved again by England's first goal last week.

 

I dont believe his a sell out. Beckham when he decided to leave Real Madrid had nothing left to prove. He had already stated that he wouldnt play for another team in England other than United, and he was offered a massive amount to be the face of the MLS in America.

 

If anything else that is an achievement, that Beckham as a Global icon, can be considered to be the face of MLS and bring recognition, to what is a fledgling sport in America. It is already proven that Beckham has had more success than the likes of Pele and Best, in bringing crowds to games in the States and raising the profile of the game. I would consider that is a success for Beckham and the game of football that he is representing.

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My argument was the it was stated that...

 

 

 

Which is false....as I stated the is more than enough evidence of Beckham doing this week in, week out for United and Real Madrid

 

But why was Beckham brought back into the England fold? I agree against the Czech's Beckham was poor, but McClaren found out at his peril, no one can deliver a ball like Beckham, which was proved again by England's first goal last week.

 

I dont believe his a sell out. Beckham when he decided to leave Real Madrid had nothing left to prove. He had already stated that he wouldnt play for another team in England other than United, and he was offered a massive amount to be the face of the MLS in America.

 

If anything else that is an achievement, that Beckham as a Global icon, can be considered to be the face of MLS and bring recognition, to what is a fledgling sport in America. It is already proven that Beckham has had more success than the likes of Pele and Best, in bringing crowds to games in the States and raising the profile of the game. I would consider that is a success for Beckham and the game of football that he is representing.

 

Do you think if Beckham had'nt have left R Madrid he would be playing regualrly for them i very much delt that, and just because Beckhams a global icon (wich i quite agree he is) does that make him a great footballer not really.And you keep going on about this DVD mabey i should see it ,like i said at the start has anyone seen something i hav'nt well by the looks of you have

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Ok awnser me this do you (MG) as a big Beckham fan think he gets more credit he deserves compaired to players like Keane or even Butt of that 99 treble wining side and think about his carrer as a whole does he deserve being seen as a great player.
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Ok awnser me this do you (MG) as a big Beckham fan think he gets more credit he deserves compaired to players like Keane or even Butt of that 99 treble wining side and think about his carrer as a whole does he deserve being seen as a great player.

 

giggs was more of a MVP to united than beckham every was ditto for scholes

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Do you think if Beckham had'nt have left R Madrid he would be playing regualrly for them i very much delt that, and just because Beckhams a global icon (wich i quite agree he is) does that make him a great footballer not really.And you keep going on about this DVD mabey i should see it ,like i said at the start has anyone seen something i hav'nt well by the looks of you have

 

What???

 

First of all

 

Beckham himself admitted he hated playing right wing, he alway saw himself as a centre midfielder.

 

Next

 

A world class player doesn't mean beating fullbacks for 90 minutes, it means he is good at what he does freekicks, passing the ball 50 odd yards. A world class player is also someone that can change a game, remember that freekick against Greece?

 

Finally.

 

I was a fullback (right and left) when I played at school and for local teams and there were a few times I was quicker then the winger. A quick turn, slick foot work or even a first time cross was enough. So that proves what you are saying about needing pace to be a winger are false.

 

I think a poll is needed.

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giggs was more of a MVP to united than beckham every was ditto for scholes

 

Could'nt agree more,i know people have their right to express their opinions and thats fair enough but i cant help thinking that utd would of won the treble that year wether Beckham was playing or not.

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Ok awnser me this do you (MG) as a big Beckham fan think he gets more credit he deserves compaired to players like Keane or even Butt of that 99 treble wining side and think about his carrer as a whole does he deserve being seen as a great player.

 

Dwight Yorke joined United for £12.6 million at the start of the campaign. It was a season in which Yorke, and fellow strikers Solskjaer, and Andy Cole were to be Manchester United's three most potent strikers, all three earning a place among the Leagues top 10 scorers. In Europe these three again produced when it mattered, Yorke and Cole often in tandem, and Solskjaer of course made his place in United folklore with his winner in Barcelona.

 

Prem WC FA Euro Total

Dwight Yorke 18 0 3 8 29

Andy Cole 17 0 2 5 24

Michael Owen 18 1 2 2 23

Alan Shearer 14 1 5 1 21

Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbaink 18 1 0 1 20

Nicolas Anelka 17 0 1 1 19

Hamilton Ricard 15 3 0 0 18

Robbie Fowler 14 1 1 2 18

Ole-Gunnar Solskjaer 12 3 1 2 18

Julian Joachim 14 0 1 1 16

 

For David Beckham, the season was marked by constant abuse from opposition fans on the back of his World Cup sending off with England the previous Summer. However, Beckham answered his critics by consistently providing some outstanding play. His pinpoint accuracy fed United's strikers with perfect crosses whipped in from the wings, his range of unstoppable free kicks added to United's goal scoring options. Beckham's contribution to United's season was immense.

Teddy Sheringham had joined United to win medals, and after United's trophy drought the previous season found opposition fans jeering at his lack of silverware. Sheringham found himself thrust into the team as a Substitute in vital matches at the end of the season, and he produced the goals when it mattered; in the F.A. Cup Final and above all, his stoppage time equaliser in the European Champions Cup Final.

 

From the Man United website
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Ok he had a good season but does make him a great player? and how many of them were from corners or free-kicks quite a few, now im not disagreeing that he could'nt take a good free-kick or a corner but i feel every proffisional should be able to given the amount they are paid and the amount of training they do.
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David Beckham at one point in his career (I'd put it around 99-01) was the best damn right winger on the planet. His creativity, passing, energy and movement was all world class and there's no one that can tell me any different because the truth is, there is no reason to deny it!

 

The 'he never goes past anyone' argument I think is used by every anti-Beckham since 1997. The truth is..HE DOES..not often..BUT HE DOES. The reason he doesn't do it alot is because he never needed to. He crossed from deep as that gave him the angle to swing the ball in such a way that would confuse the keeper into a dilemma over whether to come for it and usually it ended with a headed goal from Cole, Yorke or Van Nistelrooy.

 

Is he overrated today? Well isn't every England player? I personally think he should still be in the squad until his fitness starts to go because he's still the best dead ball specialist England have no matter what people put him down for.

 

As for him being lucky? Jesus now that just makes me angry, that's just jealously! Everybody has heard Beckham talking, he's not the brightest lamp in the street but he did what he knew and that was play football. He put all his effort and put MAJOR practice and dedication into his football and it paid off big time. Why is that lucky?

 

Is he lucky because he was born handsome and he leaves womens' knickers wetter than a Westlife concert?

 

David Beckham made himself. That's a fact. He's a hero and someone to admire, nothing less.

 

It doesn't matter whether you like his celebrity bullshit..that has nothing to do with his football.

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David Beckham at one point in his career (I'd put it around 99-01) was the best damn right winger on the planet. His creativity, passing, energy and movement was all world class and there's no one that can tell me any different because the truth is, there is no reason to deny it!

 

The 'he never goes past anyone' argument I think is used by every anti-Beckham since 1997. The truth is..HE DOES..not often..BUT HE DOES. The reason he doesn't do it alot is because he never needed to. He crossed from deep as that gave him the angle to swing the ball in such a way that would confuse the keeper into a dilemma over whether to come for it and usually it ended with a headed goal from Cole, Yorke or Van Nistelrooy.

 

Is he overrated today? Well isn't every England player? I personally think he should still be in the squad until his fitness starts to go because he's still the best dead ball specialist England have no matter what people put him down for.

 

As for him being lucky? Jesus now that just makes me angry, that's just jealously! Everybody has heard Beckham talking, he's not the brightest lamp in the street but he did what he knew and that was play football. He put all his effort and put MAJOR practice and dedication into his football and it paid off big time. Why is that lucky?

 

Is he lucky because he was born handsome and he leaves womens' knickers wetter than a Westlife concert?

 

David Beckham made himself. That's a fact. He's a hero and someone to admire, nothing less.

 

It doesn't matter whether you like his celebrity bullshit..that has nothing to do with his football.

 

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