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Jake Roberts drunk/drugged up at recent indy show in OH. It's a shame what has happened to Roberts but he is responsible for his bad decisions although he does have an addiction issue. Also a shame as there was reports he was doing well since WWE paid for another rehab trip. It's going to end tragically soon for Roberts.

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I dunno about anyone else, but I felt disgusted by the fans 'mock-cheering' Jake...the man is clearly sick, and it kinda annoyed me to see them treating the debacle like an amusement.

I can understand that it's 'JAKE 'THE WASTED SNAKE' ROBERTS' and all, but...the man has an illness - there's really no need for such a ridiculous reaction since it doesn't exactly make anyone look good.

It's sad to see any legend die, let alone watch one slowly meltdown into a disaster area. =/

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I go the opposite way mate. I was disgusted to see the way Jake was behaving, drug addict or not he crossed so many lines for the buisness he is in I cant belive it. Besides the amazingly bad perfrmabnce of no selling and generally falling over (thank God his opponant could work around it quickly enough to get a pin) but by coming to the ring in that state he was risking the life of another worker. THAT is beyond any pity I feel for Jake (which is a lot), I dont give a **** about what people put into their own bodies, just dont risk anyone elses life or happyness with it.

 

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Credit: http://www.wrestlenewz.com/wrestling/other...jake-the-snake/

 

A reader who wishes to remain anonymous sent the following report concerning Jake “The Snake” Roberts’ meltdown at last night’s Firestorm Pro Wrestling show in Lakewood, Ohio:

 

I just wanna let you guys know, wether you report it or not is up to you. But Jake The Snake Roberts appeared at Phantasy Theater in Lakewood, Ohio this last night for Firestorm Pro Wrestling. Video has even surfaced online. He was booked in the main event to face JT Lightning one on one. As soon as me and my friends arrived there everything was ok. Jake was sitting off in the corner at a little table with pictures of himself selling autographs and taking pictures with the fans. As the night progressed though everything went downhill. It was the 2nd to last match involving a match for firestorms world title. Jake had come out, clearly drunk or drugged up, and grabbed the microphone during that match (completely unscripted as everyone could tell by the owner of firestorm coming out and trying to get Jake to go back in the dressing room. ) Jake was on the mic trying to encourage the guys in the ring, then he started swearing. the second to last match ended and it was time for the main event which was Jake vs Jt Lightning. JT came out, followed by Jake The Snake. Jake grabbed the microphone and at first said he came here to do this for the fans, But he didnt feel like we were giving him the same respect hes giving us. He started talking incoherently, it was obvious he was on something. after about 3 minutes of talking he put the mic down and staggered into the ring. JT attacked him to start the match. . Jake didnt sell one shot, he just backed into the corner and it seemed like he was out of it. JT Lightning clearly got pissed and just pushed Jake to the ground and got on top of him to cover him and just end the match within 30 seconds of the start. Jake was trying to kick up. JT pushed his arms down and the ref just did a 3 count to end the match because Jake was in no shape to wrestle a match. Afterwards JT Lightning grabbed the microphone and said along the lines of “I’ve wrestled with drug addicts like Tommie Rich, Jimmy Snuka but you are by far the biggest piece of **** I’ve ever been in the ring with/” JT was literally shooting on Jake. Jake just stood in the ring and flipped JT off. Another Firestorm wrestler J Rocc came in after that match was over and attempted to give the crowd a show by doing an attack on Jake so the fans wouldnt be as pissed off about the main event lasting a whole 30 seconds. Which Jake also curled in the corner and no sold. That made J rocc mad who then tried to actually fight Jake. A wrestler named Ray Rowe came out and was trying to calm J rocc and JT down as Jake just stood in the middle of the ring flipping people off. Jake then proceded to pull his penis out and shake it in front of the whole crowd. Security and Ray Rowe were trying to keep the peace. The fans were asked to leave as the show had ended with this nonsense. Out in the parking lot about 15 minutes Jake apparently wound up fighting somebody backstage and there was concern that the angry wrestlers were going to gang up on him. At one point there was a bunch of the wrestlers and security out back, one screamed “Its going down. ” in which they all ran inside. Im not sure what happened but I can only speculate that it was a fight involving Jake Roberts. Cops arrived after this along with an ambulance. The ambulance didnt take Jake away, but the police stayed and escorted Jake to a truck where he was given a ride from the building.

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Of course Jake wasn't exactly a role model either, but whoever hired him HAD to have known that he was barely fit to do anything.

THAT is where the true irresponsibility is...he should NOT be allowed to make such appearences, or OFFERED to make them, until some semblance of normality is present!

 

Jake isn't blameless, I agree - but my beef is with those who both supported his actions on the day, and those who hired him with disregard for whether or not he could hold up his being clean!

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Jake had been reportedly clean for a few months, so why wouldnt he get booked? If he was advertised and was the draw for the show then I cant blame the promoter from trying to get it to work. 100% Jakes fault, not the promoters IMO (unless he was following Jakes progress every week, which I doubt :lol).
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Jake's addictions were advertised and made VERY clear to most people - that, and his repeated failed attempts at getting clean were equally well known. :P

ANY promoter worth his salt would have needed to have been sure about whether or not the return and risk was worth it at all - Jake's a real liability to anyone hiring him right now, and essentially should have been given LONGER to be clean rather than pounced upon and given the offer of a performance/job.

 

I don't exactly say that any promoter who figures that somebody just those months outta rehab with a notorious background of failing their 'wagon' is anyone in any position to make excuses - bottom line is somebody wasn't bothered to know the background, got lazy, or just plain wasn't concerned about possibilities...which is a fatal flaw for anyone hosting an event like this.

 

Jake has failed rehab plenty of times before now - why should anyone have assumed that this was the 'Big one' now, especially so soon after he'd been done with it?

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Weeks? It was a few months ago wasnt it? Either way the guy was reported as clean, so why should the promoter have ignored that? And to assume that guys with drug/drink problems dont get hired is insane anyway, I have been at shows where several 'legends' have been out of it. Its really not unusual, Jake was just further gone than anything I have ever seen (even the Sandman was in better nick when he fell asleep in the ring :lol). This buisness is 100% built on trust, and is 99% filled with bullshitters and a*seholes, but when one of the boys crosses that line it becomes about them not the booker. If Jake was off the wagon then HE failed, not the guy who gave him a chance to prove otherwise.

 

I agree hes a liability though, I cant belive how far gone he was there. As a (former) worker I am beyond amazed at it.

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Trust or not, NOBODY has any good reasons to book a man who's had repeated offences and is continually failing to get clean - no matter how you look at it, there's a difference between Trusting somebody, and Realising that the best option is find somebody else...

 

It's not about Jake failing or a bond of trust between promoter and performer, it's about Somebody being too stupid to see that the mess could have been prevented in the first place...which if they had hired somebody ELSE who was less of a risk-factor, none of this would have occured.

 

Jake's not exactly a Draw for the right reasons...not anymore.

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Jake's not exactly a Draw for the right reasons...not anymore.

 

I'm sorry, but this single comment has stopped me form being able to take in anything else you have said... Of course he is a draw for indy feds for the right reason (his name and history). Pretty much anyone smaller than ROH would have an increased turnout for somoene like Jake, if you think otherwise then you dont know anything about smaller feds (not an insult really :lol).

 

If you know that 2 guys are clean but 1 had problems in the past, why not choose the more famous one? Makes perfect sense, hell like the guy said in the promo, he worked druggies in the past, but jake was far beyond even that.

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Hey, I won't discount his past work, but there's no discounting his recent actions - THAT is why his drawing power is becoming a mere shadow, because of incidents like this...

 

Hell, I like the guy - but I can't understand why people hire him out, then look like they don't have a single clue that something like this can happen as though they never knew...when researching is a vital part of the process!

 

There are surely better alternatives than somebody who is fast becoming more famous for his drug addictions than his actual occupation. I know that indy feds LOVE the guy, but enough is enough...Jake's career doesn't need any more potential tarnishes after this incident!

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I'm sorry, but this single comment has stopped me form being able to take in anything else you have said... Of course he is a draw for indy feds for the right reason (his name and history). Pretty much anyone smaller than ROH would have an increased turnout for somoene like Jake, if you think otherwise then you dont know anything about smaller feds (not an insult really :lol).

 

If you know that 2 guys are clean but 1 had problems in the past, why not choose the more famous one? Makes perfect sense, hell like the guy said in the promo, he worked druggies in the past, but jake was far beyond even that.

He said "the right reasons", which probably means that he is a good worker, and Jake obviously isn't. People pay to see him either because he's a name or there's a good chance he'll do something stupid.

 

They aren't the right reasons.

 

EDIT: This kind of thing has turned me off wrestling, by the way. It's pathetic. And I don't mean Jake's actions.

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He said "the right reasons", which probably means that he is a good worker, and Jake obviously isn't. People pay to see him either because he's a name or there's a good chance he'll do something stupid.

 

They aren't the right reasons.

 

Dont be daft. His name is the reason he and most people from the WWE/F draw when they leave the fed. that IS the right reason, lets be honest how many people will draw on ablility alone? Nobody at all. Its the name value, either from ability or history.

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Whoever let Roberts walk out to the ring in that state is as much to blame as Roberts is himself.

 

The promoter obviously saw the state he was in before he went out there, he should have kicked Roberts out without paying him and appologised to the fans in attendance.

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Exactly my thoughts...NOBODY in their right mind allows anyone that far gone to even get close to going out in full view.

 

It's bad for the business - and it doesn't get ANY promoter any brownie points either when the whole mess is splashed across all the news-sites the following day...it may promote them to some degree, sure, but there's nothing to be gained from something as ridiculous as this.

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EDIT: This kind of thing has turned me off wrestling, by the way. It's pathetic. And I don't mean Jake's actions.

 

So what do you mean then?

 

Whoever let Roberts walk out to the ring in that state is as much to blame as Roberts is himself.

 

The promoter obviously saw the state he was in before he went out there, he should have kicked Roberts out without paying him and appologised to the fans in attendance.

 

Exactly my thoughts...NOBODY in their right mind allows anyone that far gone to even get close to going out in full view.

 

 

Hmmmm. Glad you both read the report then.

 

It was the 2nd to last match involving a match for firestorms world title. Jake had come out, clearly drunk or drugged up, and grabbed the microphone during that match (completely unscripted as everyone could tell by the owner of firestorm coming out and trying to get Jake to go back in the dressing room).

 

Oh look, the promoter tried to end it and get Jake backstage. But lets have fun blaming him for Jakes problems taking hold of him.

 

Fact is, the promoter was in a bad place when it happened and hoped Jake would be able to at least have a match (my God, it happens often enough on the indies), Jake screwed up. 100% his fault, nobody forced him to drink/do drugs. Yeah its an illness, but when its someone elses life in danger then screw him for not taking enough responability to put off his doped upness for a few hours.

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Perhaps so...but letting him get near the stage exit was a mistake in and of itself...Like I said, there's better alternatives than somebody who's current profession reads more 'Notorious repeat offender' than 'Professional Wrestler'.

 

I'm not defending Jake at all...but the promoters right now have no business employing anyone that high risk!

 

That's the main point in debate - is it truly worth the risk, and the endless bad publicity, to have that 1 match?

 

I doubt it.

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Hmmmm. Glad you both read the report then.
Hmmmm, I read it just find thankyou.

 

Oh look, the promoter tried to end it and get Jake backstage. But lets have fun blaming him for Jakes problems taking hold of him.

 

Fact is, the promoter was in a bad place when it happened and hoped Jake would be able to at least have a match (my God, it happens often enough on the indies), Jake screwed up. 100% his fault, nobody forced him to drink/do drugs. Yeah its an illness, but when its someone elses life in danger then screw him for not taking enough responability to put off his doped upness for a few hours.

I'm sorry, but what a load of old bullsh*t your speaking!

 

"The promoter tried to end it"?! He shouldnt have let it begin for Christ sake! In a bad place?! Bad place my ass, he should have kicked Jake out and not paid him, I expect Jakes fee' was pretty high so saving that would have left a smile on his face!

 

Hoping he could have a bad match?! Bro are you serious? Look, the promoter let Jake go to the ring, its as much his fault as it is Jakes, the promoter in the boss right? Right. Would your employee let you work p*ssed or drugged up, and if he did, surely he would deserve some of the blame, right? Of course he would!

 

You can say its 100% Jake's fault, but you'd be 100% wrong.

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