WWE RAW Discussion Thread - June 2, 2014 from Indianapolis, IN (#1097)

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When

United States: LIVE, Monday Night, June 2, at 8/7c on the USA Network

United Kingdom: Tuesday Morning, June 3, at 12AM on SkySportsHD3

 

Venue

Bankers Life Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, IN

 

Confirmed Matches/Events

 

Payback Fallout

[ViciousPrism 177]

The Shield is dead. F*ck WWE. Good f*cking going, you utter f*cking turds.

[Guest John Hancock]

They've still got Dean and Roman. Not knowing where this is going, I don't hate it. They got rid of Batista, adjusted the numbers so Evolution still have the advantage, kept the feud fresh and surprising, hopefully Seth will get a push, and it was really over. When Dean and Roman turn on each other, then they can f*ck off, I'd rather they went their separate ways amicably for a possible reunion and, who knows, when the feud evolves, maybe Seth will see the error of his ways and come back in, so they can separate as a team, and the leave the window open for future "one night only" team ups, Kane and the Undertaker style.

 

Whilst I'm aware this is WWE, and I never, ever, ever get what I want, I'm encouraged that what I want still potentially exists, which is more than I can say for literally everyone and everything else in the entire company, so I'm not ready to take my shirt off and start yelling at people just yet.

[ViciousPrism 177]

Think about the logic, Seth turned on a group that decimated Evolution not 24 hours earlier in a clean sweep. If this was say February when Shield were teasing a break up, it'd be easier to swallow, but this is straight up boo-shit.

[Maxximus 353]

They've still got Dean and Roman. Not knowing where this is going, I don't hate it. They got rid of Batista, adjusted the numbers so Evolution still have the advantage, kept the feud fresh and surprising, hopefully Seth will get a push, and it was really over. When Dean and Roman turn on each other, then they can f*ck off, I'd rather they went their separate ways amicably for a possible reunion and, who knows, when the feud evolves, maybe Seth will see the error of his ways and come back in, so they can separate as a team, and the leave the window open for future "one night only" team ups, Kane and the Undertaker style.

 

 

Literally none of that will happen. Cool things don't happen.

 

Cena to team with Ambrose and Reigns then a few years down the road they can retcon it to where Cena was all three members of the Shield.

[Guest HH-Evolution]

Eh, I can dig it...but then again, I'm probably wholly biased! :lol

[ViciousPrism 177]

You're a wh*re.

[Guest HH-Evolution]

Takes one to know one, Prissy! :3

[Guest John Hancock]

Think about the logic, Seth turned on a group that decimated Evolution not 24 hours earlier in a clean sweep.

 

Make it about money. Evolution is the weaker team physically and morally, but they've got money, and they've got power. They can give Seth Rollins the things the Shield couldn't; title shots, the highflying lifestyle, a protected position in the company. How many times has he risked his body for the Shield? Throwing himself of walls and video screens and over top ropes to save his friends, and he didn't get anything for it other than injuries. Now he's actually got something worth fighting for; success, and all he had to do was cut out the people that were holding him down the most, with their outdated moral bullshit, and their stubborn refusal to play the corporate game even a little bit. It's their fault, they were self destructive, and their victories weren't worth shit because they kept picking fights with people and things bigger than them, systems and entities they could never really beat just physically. It's not betrayal, it's not selling out, it's survival of the fittest... it's Evolution. Ta-dah.

 

But, then again, I'm making my usual mistake of applying story telling and logic and character progression to WWE, where their real reason will be "because f*ck you, nerd".

[dsrchris 190]

Well...that's most likely me done. I said the Shield was the only thing keeping me watching...and then this happens. F*ck.

[Guest The Beltster]

They ditched the crappest member, plus what else was there for the Shield to do? Realistically, they've done everything they can as a group, we all knew they were going their separate ways at some point in the very near future, Ambrose's WWE magazine comments this week revealed they were splitting so its not like its some big surprise. They probably peg Reigns as future WM main eventer and WWE champion and all these guys need something to do as singles, so giving the weakest member the best heel rub is a good way to get them started.

[dsrchris 190]

I think it's more that they ALWAYS have to have someone turn on someone. Like Johnny said, I'd much prefer them to split amicably with the prospect of special one off team ups in the future.

[Guest StefanC]

All good things eventually come to an end.

In WWE logic I wouldn't be surprised if Batista came back to join the Shield to battle H and Orton.

Or it was H's plan all along to get Tista to infiltrate the Shield, who knows?

 

All I know is that from day one I knew, you knew, everyone knew the Shield would end.

In any fashion.

 

The fact that you guys start bitchin' about how and why only makes WWE's idea that greater.

Love it or hate it: it gets a reaction, and that's what WWE is all about, the bigger the reaction, the better, no matter how good or bad people think it is.

 

I think it's more that they ALWAYS have to have someone turn on someone. Like Johnny said, I'd much prefer them to split amicably with the prospect of special one off team ups in the future.

 

Yes but that's just, well...boring, isn't it?

Why would they say ok guys, we've done it all, seen it all, now I'm going here and you're going there.

And what, they ride off into the sunset?

 

At least this way they have you wondering where it's gonna go.

I want next weeks RAW to be tonight, that's why I say: keep it going!

Edited June 3, 2014 by dsrchris

[Maxximus 353]

I wouldn't be surprised if Batista came back to join the Shield

 

I would hang myself with a wireless controller</podcast plug>

[dsrchris 190]

Yes but that's just, well...boring, isn't it?

Why would they say ok guys, we've done it all, seen it all, now I'm going here and you're going there.

And what, they ride off into the sunset?

 

At least this way they have you wondering where it's gonna go.

I want next weeks RAW to be tonight, that's why I say: keep it going!

 

You say boring, but I find it more boring to have the same team split angle played out time and time again. At least an amicable split would be something a bit different, and allow for the Shield to reunite further down the line should they need to. Not everyone needs to turn on each other.

 

And I'm not bitching about the Shield, I'm bitching about the state of WWE in general. It's mostly p*ss poor.

 

Half the things they do don't make me interested in seeing what's gonna happen, they just make me want to switch the TV off.