WrestleMania III Attendance Debate

[Guest tazz13]

Originally posted by Rikidozan

Lol, Triple H is the best heel on the roster?.....excuse me.....hahahahahahahahahahaha.

 

Bullshit.

 

Hey, do you also believe there was 93,000 at WrestleMania 3?

 

actually i do believe that number...the seating capacity at the silverdome for football is 80, 000...80, 325 to be exact...

 

from the silverdome website...

 

"The 80,325 seat dome is an entertainment center for all seasons...and all events. The two highest attended events at the Silverdome were in 1987 when 93,682 people visited the stadium to hear Pope John Paul II conduct mass and 93,173 fans packed the stadium for Wrestlemania III in 1987."

 

Capacity

Football, Soccer, Supercross, Monster Jams: 80,325

Political Rallies, Religious Crusades: 90,000

 

the silverdome was full for WM 3...the 93, 173 number is quite likely correct...given they would have only had to put 13, 000 on the floor

 

not everything WWE says is always a work...unless of course they have somehow convinced the silverdome people to lie about their seating capacities for the past 16 years

Edited June 26, 2003 by tazz13

[Dead Crow 370]

It was only about 70,000 on estimate. Pretty much everyone knows that, but seeing how you didn't, you now do :)

[Guest tazz13]

so what your saying is...there aren't really 80, 325 seats in the silverdome?...so for some unknown reason the pontiac silverdome likes to lie about their seating capacities....based on that fact alone there were more then 70,000 people at WM 3

 

and your also saying that the Pope drawing 93 000 fans is also a work?

[Guest Seabass]

don't think the people who were in charge of the silverdome stadium cared. they broke a record and weren't about to have it void by telling people the truth.

[Guest tazz13]

none of that changes the fact that the silverdome has 80,000+ seats...and clearly the silverdome was filled to capacity at WM 3 (whether papered or not is irrelevant)...80, 000 seats + a whole lot of floor space = approximately 93,000

[Guest Seabass]

Originally posted by tazzy13

none of that changes the fact that the silverdome has 80,000+ seats...and clearly the silverdome was filled to capacity at WM 3 (whether papered or not is irrelevant)...80, 000 seats + a whole lot of floor space = approximately 93,000

 

either that or you got sucked in by the trickery of the WWE :D

[Guest tazz13]

Originally posted by Seabass

either that or you got sucked in by the trickery of the WWE :D

 

lol@trickery of WWE

 

actually this argument has little to do with WWE really

 

there is one simple fact ...the seating for the silverdome is 80,000 which is undeniable

 

u may verify yourself at...

 

http://www.stadiumsofnfl.com/

 

which states..."Construction on the stadium, which was named the Pontiac Silverdome, began on September 19, 1973, and was completed in 23 months.

 

Opening day for the Lions at the Silverdome was on October 6, 1975. The Silverdome became the largest stadium in the NFL, with a capacity of 80,311"

 

 

or http://www.silverdome.com/

 

so as i said...at the absolute bare minimum there were 80,000 people at WM 3...but of course there were a ton of people on the floor

 

i don't see how it can be argued...certainly the 70,000 is incorrect....are you saying that there aren't 80,000 seats in the silverdome?

Edited June 26, 2003 by tazz13

[Guest Seabass]

really i'm not saying your wrong (the others though...:D)

to be the hell honest i couldn't give a damn what the actual figure was. i wasn't there (curse me being born in 84), i didn't see WM3 till 14 years later (by luck as it is) and the last thing i'm gonna worry about while wondering why WWE isn't as good as it use to be is the actual attendance of some event...wrestlecrap or something (yes i know i just contirdict myself...that's not the point)

 

that must bethe oddest rant i've ever thought of :)

[Guest tazz13]

i guess i really don't care either...but so many people slag WWE for their revisionist history...i thought i'd give them a little credit

 

if u assume the 70, 000 is correct...that would mean that there would have to be no fans at all on the floor...and that 10,000 of the 80,000 seats in the dome would have to be empty

 

 

a bit of common sense is is all it takes to see that such was not the case...the floor was packed and so were the stands

[Guest Tajiri]

This seem pretty relevant, its from 411:

 

"What was the "real" attendance at Wrestlemania III? Were there more people at Wembley for SummerSlam in '92?"

 

The "real" attendance issue is one of those bizarre "smart mark v. anti-smart mark" arguments that never ends up going anywhere. The argument goes like this...

 

A few years back, Dave Meltzer mentioned that the actual attendance for WM3 was not 93173, but closer to 78000, which he found out via a conversation with Gary Juster. Thus smart mark dogma is generally considered to be that WM3 was 78000, not 93000.

 

Aha, the "shut up and be entertained" faction says in response, but if Juster was working for WCW at the time, how do you know he wasn't lying to make the WWF look bad?

 

Well, the smart marks reply, you're assuming that Dave's ONLY source on this was Juster, which he never said was the case. In fact, being a journalist, he would have verified the number from other sources before reporting it as such, and really who gives a shit in the long run anyway since Vince cooks numbers all the time and why should this be any different?

 

The argument generally goes downhill from there, but that's the highlights. You can, however, make a strong case for either number and defend it to the death in numerous pointless flamewars on the subject on a messageboard near you, should you so choose. Either number can be considered "right", but I tend to go with 78000 because it pisses off that other group so easily.

 

As for the Wembley question, there were legimately 82,000 paid fans there, and that's been verified numerous times.

[Guest Simon]

The man does raise a good point... what do you reckon the attendance really was then?

 

Just saw Tajiri added another point in there... which makes me even more confused what to believe :)

[Guest Tajiri]

An argument for the 78 000 number -

 

For Yanky Football the Silverdome holds 80 000 meaning that there would have to of been 13 000 floot seats for Mania III.

 

The old Wembley's attendance was 80 000, Summerslam 92's attendance was 82 000.

 

Meaning if you compare the two for roughly the same ground there was 11 000 less seats at Summerslam 92.

 

On a side note promoters have been lieing about attendances for decades even back in the days of Thez.

[Guest tazz13]

Originally posted by tazzy13

 

Capacity

Football, Soccer, Supercross, Monster Jams: 80,325

Political Rallies, Religious Crusades: 90,000

 

 

i'll quote my own post....is there any good reason why they would lie and say their seating capacity for religious crusades (i.e., the Pope) is 90, 000??...obviously they wouldn't...and therefore it stands to reason they could get 90,000 for wrestling also...the picture for the Pope's visit to the silverdome does not look any more packed then WM 3

 

i mean, are u saying that a visitor to the silverdome website who sees that it has a 90, 000 seat capacity for a religious event is actually being lied to?...makes no sense

 

to me its cut and dry really....why would the stadium owners make up ficitcious numbers for their seating capacity...if they do then i give much credit to vince for masterminding such a great coverup

[Guest Rikidozan]

Just to clarify, the attendance WAS around 73,000, even the fricken SilverDome management said it was, at the time. Jesus, how benile are you to believe that just because the capacity is/was 93,000 that 93,000 people were there.

 

Believe what you will, I couldn't care less;)

[Guest Cactus Jack]

Does it really F'N matter?

 

Jesus Christ, anything to have a go at Vince!