A contradictory character to say the least, as the WWE have managed to mess up his history so much, as is shown...

 

Kane was meant to be a mute, who had to be dependent on a little vocal amplifier, but now he talkes perfectly. Did we miss something here? I don't think mutes can gain a perfect voice.

 

Also, he was meant to be hideously scarred (As was pointed out by J.R. on Raw, 3 weeks ago). When his mask was taken off, it turned out he was more of an angry coal miner than an evil hideously scarred monster. Shame.

 

Kane was introduced as the undertaker's brother, correct? So why has the undertaker not got anything to do with Kane at all now? Just because they are on different shows it doesnt mean that they cannot cross paths.

 

Also, concerning the undertaker, he isn't the undertaker anymore, so why call him that? They might as well change his characters name to the biker or something.

 

The WWE exploited a great character in Kane so much that they have ruined the whole story around him and he has dropped back to the days of Isaac Yankem.

 

Sad days for the WWE.

great

 

I agree with the background of this, but if we all live on past wwe storylines, then we shouldn't watch WWE. I mean, none of this past much helps, unless they are after a decent main event, (which is never, in my view)

 

We should just forget what "happened" which isn't hard, as far as WEE goes, and just watch, and see how this develops. aAs far as Kane goes, I'm watching his career develop, and as far as stating the obvious, which is that Shane will face Kane at SummerSlam, (probably), or in the very near future, the Shame V. Big Show trivials will re-develop, and Shane will defaet Kane, thus ending in Kane's removement from the WWE.

 

So what do all you "Kaneanites" think?

Has Kane "had it" as far as RAW goes?

Do you follow his career?

 

I'd be interested in your views/

 

Chris

Hold up

 

But isn't it history in the WWE that brings on some of the most heated and waited for matches and partnerships? Like any Mick Foley match envolving a steel cage, or the return of D Generation X?

I'm not a Kaneanite as such but he has certainly not had it. Yes, it was a great shame that the WWE took off his mask BUT it was obviously to give him some sort of push.

 

He's now in one of the main storylines of RAW which is better than he was before. (altho it might not seem it) The Kane Vs Shane match should be a good one. I hope that Kane wins and another storyline comes out of it. (hopefully one pitting him putting the mask back on) Then maybe Shane will move to Smackdown!?

 

I have to admit tho, he should stay at RAW, it's a much better show and he fits in nicely...

Re: Hold up

 

Originally posted by One-Of-A-Kind

But isn't it history in the WWE that brings on some of the most heated and waited for matches and partnerships? Like any Mick Foley match envolving a steel cage, or the return of D Generation X?

 

Agreed. Like when Austin came back, I wish he could still wrestle. It's a great shame that he can't BUT we have to move on some day.

 

(I'm just greatful that Austin is still involved with the WWE on a regular basis)

 

It's possible that DX could return to feud with Evolution or take over Smackdown but it's not likely considering Triple H was a main part of it.

 

 

(I could just imagine flair doing the DX thing and saying "whoooooooooooooooo" at the same time lol, dunno why i just thought of that...)

 

Evolution is just building up and starting it's career, it will not end yet, (IMO) so the chances of bringing back DX are slim :(

If DX return, you may as well put a fork in WWE and say it's done.

Originally posted by jungmuta

If DX return, you may as well put a fork in WWE and say it's done.

 

 

Explain as I disagree

http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7674

 

hopefully that should help you out in understaning the whole Kane story

If WWE resort to bringing back a group, they've already brought back once and failed, and decided to bring back 2 guys who both look way older than they are, cause trouble and have constant drug problems (X-Pac, Road Dogg), then it proves they have absolutely no ideas for the future, and with no ideas for the future you won't get very far. If DX come back, WWE wouldn't last much longer, it would be an obvious sign of panic mode if they had to resort to that. Thats why.

Originally posted by jungmuta

If DX return, you may as well put a fork in WWE and say it's done.

 

 

If you mean that DX would spoil the WWE I believe your wrong, and sorry to say that.

DX had a huge fanbase and the fact that shawn michaels and kevin nash are already on the same level gives that sort of vibe.

The fact is though, that DX coming together is very unlikely. The reasons follow.

 

"Road Dogg" Jesse James was fired by vince due to drug use, as was xpac, with at the same time, a huge let down, of Jeff Hardy. Scott Hall suffered the same fate but on a non drug related deal (Was scott hall in DX? I think he might have been)

 

Mike Tyson has no chance of coming back to DX, after the whole wrestlemania crap.

 

"Mr. Ass" Billy Gunn already has a story going at the moment.

 

Triple H of course, being in Evolution.

 

This is a sad but true case, although i would like to see DX returning once more for a final bow.

Edited August 5, 200321 yr by One-Of-A-Kind

Remember when DX returned, big initial pop then no-one cares, and thats what it would be like again. Just look at history, NWO rehashed, DX, Redneck Austin, Hogan etc etc many more examples.

 

Sure big initial pop then nothing, its just nostalgia. They bring in good crowd pops, but look at the ratings when all of those returned, they did nothing, thus what does that tell you?

 

The answer: Nobody cares. Why would we want to pay for something we've already seen and isnt even 100 times as cool as when we first saw it? You've got to move on, look to the future, make new DX's, new Hogan's etc. Use the theory of evolution in any business, or else you won't go anywhere.

 

Want proof? Look at WCW.

Originally posted by One-Of-A-Kind

If you mean that DX would spoil the WWE I believe your wrong, and sorry to say that.

DX had a huge fanbase and the fact that shawn michaels and kevin nash are already on the same level gives that sort of vibe.

The fact is though, that DX coming together is very unlikely. The reasons follow.

 

"Road Dogg" Jesse James was fired by vince due to drug use, as was xpac, with at the same time, a huge let down, of Jeff Hardy. Scott Hall suffered the same fate but on a non drug related deal (Was scott hall in DX? I think he might have been)

 

Mike Tyson has no chance of coming back to DX, after the whole wrestlemania crap.

 

"Mr. Ass" Billy Gunn already has a story going at the moment.

 

Triple H of course, being in Evolution.

 

This is a sad but true case, although i would like to see DX returning once more for a final bow.

 

 

I agree :xyx

DX returning would be piss-poor, the original DX was nothing special, just a rip-off, juvenile version of the NWO.

 

Regarding the whole Kane deal, I could probably write a book explaining how the angle is completely feckless.

Originally posted by Rikidozan

DX returning would be piss-poor, the original DX was nothing special, just a rip-off, juvenile version of the NWO.

 

Regarding the whole Kane deal, I could probably write a book explaining how the angle is completely feckless.

 

 

That's ur opinion. But I could just say that the NWO were just a "rip off, juvenile version of DX"

Erm, no, you couldn't say the NWO was a juvenile DX rip-off, as the NWO angle was being used first. Keep up kid. And yes, it is my opinion. My opinion that holds more water than your's;)

Yeah I'm not usually up to doing this as he's usually wrong :P, but I agree with Riki (and Jung). Bringing back DX would indeed be feckless, and would prove that WWE has no fresh ideas. No one would actually give a crap about DX returning for more than 5 minutes. Vince Russo said it best: "Evolution is the solution".

 

And yeah you are wrong about DX and NWO - NWO formed in 1996. DX formed in 1997. HOWEVER, you could make the assumption that the NWO was a rip-off of the infamous Clique in WWF. But nevertheless...

 

 

DX = feckless booking team.

Without getting off topic for too long, calling for DX to be brought back is nothing short of moronic, and would only be done by someone who thinks like the tits who write for the WWE.

 

Didnt 2002 teach you that re-hashing stuff from the past ISNT entertaining?

 

Anyway, as for the Kane thing, I still think it's hilarious, and in my opinion its probably the most developed (badly perhaps) gimmick in WWE history. I dunno how I feel about it.... I suppose the WWE could explain most of the gaps in the gimmick really...

Originally posted by Rikidozan

DX returning would be piss-poor, the original DX was nothing special, just a rip-off, juvenile version of the NWO.

 

Regarding the whole Kane deal, I could probably write a book explaining how the angle is completely feckless.

 

DX weren't really an nWo rip off...the nWo was an invading group trying to take over wcw (at least originally)

 

DX was basically just a couple guys being asses...they weren't 'outsiders' or 'invaders'...the only reason people always compare the two is because they were big at the same time

 

they were simply two factions...i guess if you wanna be technical everyone is a rip off of the horseman, who basically defined the word 'faction'

 

there were similarities between the groups...but there are the same similarities among every heel faction known to man

but anyways...i do agree bringing back DX would be a bad idea

Jesus, Dra agrees with me!...do I get some sort of statue in my honor, or Dra's?

 

In actuality, the first heel group were the Freebirds, but that's just nit-picking. I'm glad most can see a DX return would be a huge step backwards.

Originally posted by Rikidozan

Erm, no, you couldn't say the NWO was a juvenile DX rip-off, as the NWO angle was being used first. Keep up kid. And yes, it is my opinion. My opinion that holds more water than your's;)

 

I know that the NWO angle was before DX but you could still say that the NWO was a rip off of DX.

 

As I said, opinions are opinions.

 

And, I don't appreciate being called kid ;)

 

IMO DX was more original than the NWO

 

BUT WHO CARES?

 

WE HAVE EVOLUTION NOW!!!

Edited August 6, 200321 yr by Dickie Hyde