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I hated Bradshaw before for his 'pro-America and screw everyone else' attitude, and I still hate him now. Hell, I even lifted the no swearing rule when it was announced he was the #1 Contender. This incident has not made me feel any different about him, it's just solidified the fact that I think he's a stupid wankshaft.

I'll take things as seriously as I want when I look at pictures of my grandfather who went out and fought in the second world war, just so wankers like Bradshaw could take the piss out of it.

I am still completely dumbfounded at how people seem to condone this. Cheap heat is when you insult the hometown you're at, tell the crowd they suck, insult a country or stereotype a group of people. Making nazi signs is just beyond comparison.

I'm sorry, I thought I just saw people DEFENDING him. Today is the 60th anniversary of when thousands of people died to stop the person that the Texan idiot was impersonating from taking over the greatest powers in the world, and turning everything into one big facist dictatorship. You say nobody died, but they DID. The thousands of Jews that were persecuted by Hitler, the hundreds of thousands of people who sacrificed their lives so the UK, AND the USA could live in a free world. And the JBL comes along with his hilarious idea to get some cheap heat by breaking the law on the anniversary of the most important day in the 20th Century. Someone needs to put him in a concentration camp, and we'll see if he still wants to do that in the ring.

From what I can work out it's: June 13- Bad Blood in Columbus, Ohio- RAW June 27- The Great American Bash in Norfolk, Va. SmackDown! July 11- Vengence in Hartford, Conn.- RAW Aug. 15- SummerSlam in Toronto, CA- BOTH Sept. 12- Unforgiven- RAW Oct. 3- No Mercy- SmackDown! Oct. 19- RAW Pay-Per-View Nov. 14- Survivor Series- BOTH Dec. 12- Armageddon - SmackDown! Jan. 30, 2005- Royal Rumble Feb. 20, 2005- No Way Out - SmackDown! April 3, 2005- WrestleMania 21 in Los Angeles

Evil Gringo, you're new to these debates here. You're correct in everything you just said, but you're new. Give it a week more, and you will realise that NOTHING you say has any effect on our HHH fans, who will just ignore what you say and concentrate solely on how boring Benoit is, and how good HHH is. Just thought I'd warn you.

Wotz teh super j cup iz it som kind of crappy indy tourny wtf LOL 2K4

You found the Angle/Benoit matches BORING? HOW THE HELL DID YOU MANAGE THAT? And just to run through your earlier points: Knowing more moves? How can we tell, Benoit only uses about 6 or 7? How many does HHH use exactly? Excecuting them well? Benoit isn't the smoothest wrestler around either. Yes he is. And anyway, did you know that HHH has broken two people's necks by Pedigreeing them? Selling well? Benoit's selling isn't as good as HHH's. Maybe Benoit can't sell newspapers as well as HHH, but he has more in ring psychology in his little toe than HHH has. Making a match exciting? Benoit is pretty poor at this IMO I suppose all the near-falls that get the crowd involved are just boring then. High-flying? Well he falls off the turnbuckle sometimes. Yeah he does. He also does that Flying Headbutt 3/4 of the way across the ring, but I suppose that doesn't count. Seriously Ed, you MUST be doing this on purpose to get us annoyed...

If Kane wins, SmackDown looks stronger, and that won't happen. How? Well Raw's Kane was squashed by SmackDown!'s Undertaker at 'Mania, whereas SmackDown!'s Benoit went to Raw to go for the World Title as opposed to the WWE Title. Therefore, if Kane wins, it makes it seem like a SmackDown talent is better than all the Raw talent, which isn't what Vinnie Mac wants. Or I'm just talking crap :P.

Sheffield? What an incredibly strange place to choose...

The old, and still stupid excuse. Benoit's mic work has been equal to HHH's recently. Why should that matter? That's like saying Arsenal aren't the best team in England because they finished 10th in 1995. HBK isn't as past it as HHH. The fact that HBK can sell absolutely anything is incredible consdiering his injuries. I almost agree with you, except I'd say he shouldn't even consider being a face. (Oops, sorry Ric, I meant... good guy). Agreed, but he did have a run at the top in 2001. Needs another one seeing as HHH squashed any momentum he had. It's quite difficult for one of the best North American amateur wrestlers to be green. Ditto from Shelton. Plus Haas and Rico are the only mildly entertaining angle on SmackDown right now, so he does have a personality. I'd quite like to be that fit when I'm his age. This crap gimmick... sure it's not the one that got him over with pretty much every wrestling fan? Strange comment seeing as he speaks once every 6 months. Too small would be a perfectly acceptable reason. Yeah, the gimmick hasn't got over at all has it? :roll Canadian. ... what? Did you watch SmackDown in 2002 when Edge and Angle had a great feud, followed by Edge and Eddie having a great feud? The guy's had a lot of criticism recently, but he is working with a broken hand and recovering from major neck surgery. Again... what? The guy is a good worker with an INCREDIBLY good heel persona.

Glad you had a great time Alan :xyx

Well what a night. After three years of supporting Chris Benoit, the best wrestler in North America finally gets what he's always deserved: Major recognition in the WWE, and a World Heavyweight title, and I can't think of anyone who deserves it more. And the great thing is that no matter how many of you moan about him winning, there are far more people who are happy he's won. And hey, it's not like you can do anything about it.

Try Nikolai Volkoff

Dave Batista

Nathan Jones. Oh wait, we've had that :P Nick Dinsmore

You don't like Benoit or Tajiri? Ay, ay, ay... Ian Harrison - World's most 'roided wrestler.

Scotty 'Sickboy' Vick

I'll probably put it in when it's fizzled out :xyx

Can we cut the talk about the stuff that is non-subject related please? Rick - If you wish to post your pictures, can you do it in another thread, maybe the one about your forums?

That's the thing though, you're not the king, and you're not outwitting anyone. I don't join in with the Russo arguments because I'm a WWE guy, and TNA is not my speciality. I'll leave it to more expert people like Dra, Col, Acid and Verb etc. to argue against Russo, because they know more on the subject than me. However, I will say for the millionth time in this thread, Russo CAN be good, but his idea are crappy more often than not, and he DID as good as destroy WCW. Or was it Vince McMahon that destroyed WCW at Survivor Series 2001? :roll

and David Arquette's in-ring skills were second to none....

You do realise that in the last two years, the following people have received World or WWE Title shots: - Jeff Hardy - Maven - Randy Orton (whilst still a Face on SmackDown) - Hardcore Holly - Chuck Palumbo - Spike Dudley - Bubba Ray Dudley Are THEY Main-Eventers?

HHH vs. HBK was good, and HHH did put a lot of effort in. However it was nowhere near as good as the PPV matches done by Rey, Edge, Angle and Benoit in Late 2002, or as good as the RVD/Eddy Ladder Match on Raw.