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That's... pretty harsh... Santino is a midcard, chicken sh*t heel. He's damn good at it. "Aww, he's just a comedy wa wa wa wa" No, he's not... he's an enjoyable heel who is getting people caught up and involved in his character. I don't think you're giving him enough credit for what he's doing. 64 weeks is a long time, who knows where he will be by that point. Santino is the kind of man who can build up the belt by not even having to compete in matches, him showing it off and singing about how much it means to him MAKES THE BELT MEAN SOMETHING. Or maybe I look too deeply into things.

They're really, REALLY not...

When someone has to start using broken glass because God-damned TACS are old hat - then there's something very, very wrong there ! I look forward to Foly doing not a whole lot. Am I sceptical ? ... well, yes... yes I am. Maybe he'll join Abyss and deliver some mind-blowing, career defining ANTI-hardcore promos, spit on a title and get into lots of trouble backstage for it.... I pray they don't add him to the huge Sting/Jarrett/Nash/Joe/Angle/Booker/Styles orgy that is the main event picture at the moment.

I'm putting a fiver right here in this post that says, if even HALF of these women ended up in WWE by some magic, crazy stroke of luck, you would still damn well sing the praises of Shimmer over them. To also say 'more top talent' I'm quite sure would be wrong. Talented and 'top talent' are very different things. For example, WWE have a lot of talent - but people would only count Hogan/Rock/Austin/HHH/Taker as TOP talent (there's others - it's just for arguments sake). Then you have folk who are talented - MVP, Cena, Batista, Matt (Gud... I just can't finish that one)... Edge and a whole host of others. There's that very serious division, so for you to pretend that Shimmer have just a whole host of headlining behemoths is, although I can't be sure, almost definitely completely wrong ! ! Even though RoH is a purists wet dream, you can't pretend that outside maybe five people there's any TOP talent. I just think you're being a little rose-tinted towards Shimmer.

Not trying to be stupid, but if you're not brilliant about putting over your 'opinions' (look, I said opinions - waaay) then why not take a few more minutes to read over what you're about to say and make SURE that you are saying exactly what you're wanting to say ? Computers are wonderful things and, in theory, taking five minutes longer to post one comment that makes perfect sense will save you having to post another ten trying to defend what you didn't mean to say in the first place....... I'm sorry to say but, while we're on it, your style isn't 'to the point' - your style is too often 'not quite make sense' before going on to contradict yourself when people point out holes in your argument. I, reading from when you started as JayFunk, defended you to my bro saying you had a better knowledge of wrestling than people were giving you credit for; you just indeed suffered from not being able to put over your points perfectly. However there ARE times when you are arguing the wrong side. People claim there's no such thing as wrong opinions - I'm sorry but there are to rain on your cloud. Justify racism to me ? Opinions are not wrong when arguments can be put behind them that hold them up, that's where your problem begins. People will call you on your opinions, you can't just hide behind "oh, it's all just opinions, can't change that" - we're not specifically trying to change it, we're trying to get at your logic. If we break down the logic, then yeah we can change (or at least disregard) your opinion. Nobody thinks or believes something for no reason, so being asked to explain the logic that builds towards your opinion is not a big problem - if you cannot seriously argue constructively, don't argue at all ! --- Phew, sorry, just wanted to get that out. For Belty, back on topic nooooo' !

There are too many public apologies in TNA ! Also just want to throw out, they need a new 'deep voice guy' for all their trailers and stuff - see the Scott Steiner 'Cross The Line' one... Does anyone else feel it's hilarious, yet oh-so uncomfortable when he says "each suplex is a reminder of why he IS the Big Booty Daddy". Listen out for it ! I'm watching Impact at the moment, Kurt just came away with the comment "Screw your bo*bs !" to the Beautiful People. Go Kurt !

I assume he's occassionally called Mizark just as a nickname. Could be very wrong though ?

Cade and Murdoch involved the ref in changing the end of the match. Cryme Time were supposed to lose by pin but ended up being counted out - which threw them of course. They realised what had happened and so decided to have some fun themselves - attacking the ref, delivering the double team and stealing his belt. I was, on the whole, led to believe the attack on the ref was actually quite innocent rather than not taking it in good humour. Maybe I'm wrong.

Is it just me who doesn't actually have a problem with the four teams ? Maybe they're not given forty minutes every show and don't have weekly storylines dedicated to them, but come on people - you moan about the tag titles getting no attention and then complain when they give you a match ?!?! Just looking at the teams; Miz/Morrison - They have fantastic charisma, look and FEEL (how important this is will too often be under rated by folk) like a team. They are heel monsters and just come across as two prettyboy punks. Add in the fact they can pretty easily pull fun matches out of most folk they've been against and I think there's reason why so few people have any issues with them. Jesse/Festus - I like these guys. They are fun faces. The bell idea has been put over well and Jesse has a good innocent feel, working as the ragdoll who gets beat up until his partner is unleashed. Add in the fact Festus is one MF'N good big man (hey, remember that really good Taker match ?) and I can't see why people complain about them. Finlay/Hornswoggle - Fair play, you can moan and complain that Sir Finlay should be beating people up and not dancing, but he isn't. Taking into consideration that the tough Irishman is putting everything into making this work, and that Hornswoggle is competent enough to be enjoyed in a limited fashion in the ring, they work well as a face team with an obvious weak link. Edge-heads - See, these guys suffer from being pushed as nothing but fanboys of Edge. So therefore that's all I see, but hey-ho - they've done it well. Them also recently actually CREATING A BIT OF STORY with their bell antics adds to this match... But gosh-darn it, all the teams are the sh**s ! WWE should just bring back Demolition or something or other.

You know what TNA should do... Bring in Hogan, and have a few heels beating down a face or two. Then Hogan charges the ring, to huuuuge ovation from the crowd, as Don West let's out a "but which side is he on ?" Finally Hogan drops the legdrop on the face and a new era of wrestling begins as he takes to being a heel ! ! AND you know why - cause it's something new, and original.

That is beaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaautiful. WWE truly are sh1tting themselves over TNA. ... Sorry... That's an obvious typo, you meant 'Fired'... ---- Watch this thread burn a death.

It's not a huge amount at the moment, what I like doing is download a few tracks - if I enjoy them then go out and buy the album cause I'm old fashioned. But basically I don't have much mon-ey at the moment. An album by them is pretty much top of my to-buy list however, pay day is soon...... I also have 'Dance Commander' - which I remember seeing the music video for ONCE, absolutely years ago and then no one believed me that it existed. Absolutely no one and it drove me insane. So yeah, got hold of it to prove the world wrong ! HA ! Went with 'Down At McDonelzz' as well - absolutely love the keyboard/piano in it, just a fantastic off beat rhythm. Basically stole a few tunes off the new album since the title of it made me laugh and realise that these guys were indeed worth something. (Also 'Danger! High Voltage' and 'Gay Bar' but I feel those are a taken) Do you have any tunes that you would recommend ?

I think it's Mitch, correct me if I'm wrong (DC?), who has gone on about Electric Six for AGGGGGGES as being more than just an 'innuendo singles band'... So I downloaded a few tracks, and WOW. Goodness me have I been wrong about them. Some fantastic music - especially enjoying 'When I Get To The Green Building'.

Depends what kind of contract you're under. If you're under a Mon to Fri, 9-5 type dealio, then yeah it's harder to debate... But if you are simply employed to work 48 hours, then hell you get them dealt as and how the employer wishes. I doubt JR is employed under 'RAW commentator'.

My good lad... read the beginning of your quote... you said you don't insult... Now hold on a seccy, an insult is an insult no matter what age you are (mentally, physically, emotionally or metraphysically). Deal with your horrendous hypocrisy. Otherwise you make Snitsky cry ! ------- To try vaguely get the thread back on topic, I applaud TNA for taking the big step into the foreign market and hope it provides them with some good income. Maybe they're making a side step rather than one specifically forward but either way they're moving. Which is good. (I won't lie... I'm not completely sure if that was what was being discussed in the first instance but hey-ho, let's give it a kick in the dark)

An.... insult ? Or maybe I'm just going gosh darn crazy.

I dunno, Mickie James usually books her own botches....

I was just watching TNA - and it was the Abyss/Mitchell parent reveal bitty. It's terrible and annoys me senseless; but I just feel like mentioning how much I LOVE Mitchell as a promo. The way in which he revealed the secret was wonderful, I do wish they didn't waste him so. Ach well.......

It's clearly symbollic. As Vince gives away his fortunes the WWE literally falls apart around him. And, because karma is a funny old thing... it will drag him down with it. Clearly.

Battle Royal Round-Up.... Oh, it's all the drafts... Poor ECW. They have, what, one representative ? I was hoping they'd pull something out of the bag... Unless each show gets five each ?! Oh good... there's Chavo, they've got it in the bag... Morrison = Style. And Smackdown has... MVP looking like he's about as happy to be wearing that blue top as he is to be following the overrated spot monkey Jeff Hardy out onto the stage. Right now I'm predicting that Smackdown win somehow. However I would like ECW to. Possibly some kind of stupid screw around so that two shows get a pick each instead... wouldn't put it past them. If it ends with a RAW victory I might be call my girlfriend, wake her up and just scream down the phone before hanging up. I know it's irrelevant but during the advert break my brother and I are reading numerous Oor Wullie cartoons, the animation really went out the window with a number of the annoynamous (sp? Who cares...) artists. It's a sad sight. THE MATCH... Big Show is picking on Chavo - that's a smart move. Get rid of the big players first ! Morrison glides across the ring - it's beautiful to watch, real bleedin' poetry in motion. Khali leaves the ring to enjoy his comedy career. It's good to see him getting such support from the rest of the roster. Big Show pays for picking on Chavo as everyone stands up for the minority member..... Haha, no he doesn't. This is how Big Show should be booked EVERY week. Suddenly people realise that picking on Show isn't such a brilliant idea and start fighting between themselves all like 'sorry Sir, we ain't doing nothing...' Benjamin is out and it's unannounced. Haha, hear that Shelton -it's no one caring. That's what one-a-year-spots do for you. Just throwing it out right now... where's Kofi - Taz would've cared when HE was eliminated... Triple H isn't about to be attacked by Matt Hardy. MVP killed Punk. Miz & Morrison are out - due to severe bias booking. And *** Batista is on steroids. They don't have steroids in the Palace of Wisdom. Waaaay Hardy boys reunited - I joke, I hope they both lose via HHH. CM Punk ain't addicted to losing, fools. Edge hit one of his bad spears.... two... three.... four..... bad spears for all. FIVE... enjoy it. Now we're at the adverts. BACK. A RAW guy is out.... Hey look, it was Punk. He should've learned from earlier that messing with Show isn't the way to win matches. Matt Hardy has started on HH, it's time to leave. Chavo is out with a true superkick by Jeff. It saddens me, now we've got Matt Hardy to win it for ECW. Now I don't want ECW to win - that's how much I don't like you Matt. You know what, double teaming isn't kosher. I hate the Hardy's. They're fighting... I want a nuclear weapon.... Well.... ECW is done... Oh well.... Taz is going home, good for him. Off to get drunk. Holy moly... Poor Tista... that Edge is hiding a steel plate in those golden locks. Bald piggy back riding - it's a necessary evil within WWE from here on in. Batista almost moved then decided against it. Haha, Jeff there goes your main event push - HHHHHHHHified ! So.... now we have Raw, Raw, Raw, Raw, Raw, Raw.... and a Big Show.... The lesson from earlier in the match WILL be learned the hard way I guess. Cena and Triples will end up fighting or something stupid. OH, Edge is still there. Where did he come from.... See when you are double suplexed by a single man, you just roll out of the ring and cry to your momma. When Edge steals this victory I hope he write' a letter of thanks to Big Show and gets him an invitation to his and Vickie's wedding or something. Well done you. Who's being drafted...... I can't say I completely care because Edge you ruined that for me. KENNNNNNNNNEDY IS BACCCCCCCK. GUTTTTTTTTTTTTTER for you. He's a midcarder still..... stiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiill. Triples, well isn't that wonderful to hear. Looks like bignose is keeping his title and Edge is a-losing. Well that was a wonderful match.

The big red machine back on the big red show. It's one of those picks which to many has the illusion of meaning something, but really no change will occur.

JBL. We'll wait and see who his opponent is. I want it to be Kofi... I want Kofi to win it. I ASKED FOR IT ! ! Taz loves Kofi, I love Kofi too. A Kofi match isn't complete without some Adalme 'Jamaican me crazy'.... JBL - 'Come on Boy...' Em.... raccccccissssst.... It sickens me. Complaining to the Daily Mail.

The sun was in Colin's eyes... damn you Umaga and your cheating ways !

MVP... Raw just got serious. Where's his bouncy castle ? Live what ?! Against Tommy " I wish that were the hill that I was over, but no, that's not a hill, it's my gut" Dreamer.... Oh but Colin Delany so I'm down with that sickness. I like to imagine that Colin will develop a bit of a Brett Banner thing going on... Haha, wow, Dreamer lost. I'm amazed. So much for his streak. The one everyone predicted. 'The Samoan Bulldog...' '...Bulldozer...' 'Dozer, bulldozer.' Classic.

I was hoping for Kofi to RAW :( Well that sucks....