Who's tougher New Jack or Cena?

[Guest Thirteen]

Ok. I haven't read all the post here but this is my opinion.

 

New Jack=Used to be a friggin bounty hunter. Killed 2 people. Is quite frankly crazy.

 

Cena=Nice guy. Loves the fans. But is in good shape.

 

New Jack would destroy Cena. Sure Cena is more fit and athletic. But New Jack is mental and sadistic. If the two started fighting Cena would lay off a little but New Jack would not lay off at all. The guy killed 2 people. Used to be a bounty hunter. Worked in ECW(which makes him alot tougher than Cena)

 

If you don't believe me. Let's take a look at the Mass Transit match. Mass Transit walked in with his father and a midget. Didn't look to be in shape and was quite well rounded. He knew he was working a match with New Jack. Mass Transit had never been bladed before and asked New Jack to balde him a little to know the feeling of it.

 

Of course New Jack was happy to do it. But he just didn't blade him a little...he f'n bladed him ear to ear. The kid was in a pool of his own blood. While all this was going on the father screamed for him to stop but New Jack said "Shut the f*ck up!" and continued to kick and punch the kid.

 

This is why New Jack is tougher than Cena. Cena would get destroyed. End of story.

I agree with your prediction of the outcome but I disagree with your reasons for coming to that conclusion.;)

Edited May 3, 2006 by Thirteen

[Guest Drake]

PSYCHOOOO!!!!!

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gkc-ZYitf4&search=new%20jack

 

 

And as far of who would win in a street fight between Cena vs New Jack, the only thing I can say is that if New Jack gets the upper-hand then Cena's pretty much FUC*ED.

[Guest Steve O]

This is bullshit so what if NJ is crazy so is Tyson but he got his ass handed to him by Lewis and even Danny Williams what im saying is NJ is old and slow and out of shape. Just because NJ killed some people millions of years ago doenst mean ****. He is simply to broken down too old and just would be able to stop a young fit strong bull like Cena from pounding his face in.

[Paul 584]

Again:

 

Tyson was beaten in a fight with rules. A real fight has no rules. THAT is the difference, I would ahve put money on Tyson beating Williams in a brawl.

[Guest MrFill]

Like Darkie has said, and I've said previously - Tyson had to follow the rules of boxing.

 

Given a chance, he'd charge in and bite their ear off, because he's a crazy mo'fo.

[Guest Steve O]

In a real fight Cena would charge at NJ and take him down and pummel him dont matter how crazy your are if you have a 250lb young dude pounding on your face you aint getting up.

[Paul 584]

Have you ever been in a real fight or ever seen any MMA? The way you post makes me think its not likely. You are assuming that not only would Cena have the ability to take Jack down, but that he would be ruthless enough to keep beating until NJ is out. Remember its not that easy to take someone down in a fight and remain in the mounted position, Jack could end up on top and then what chance would Cena have as a killer is beating down on his head?

[Guest Steve O]

Yeah I have actually been in quite a few fights and it can be hard to hold people down but Cena is one big bull while NJ I believe hasnt got the power to get Cena off him and I dont think Cena would have to punch him too many times to knock him out. 10 years ago NJ would win but he just is too overmatched.

 

Lets remember NJ aint no UFC fighter who can duck out the way of take downs or move from punches and reverse them into key locks he is just a man who shot someone he didnt kill them with his bare hands.

Edited May 3, 2006 by Steve O

[Guest MrFill]

It doesn't always take strength and power to get someone off of you, when you've got someone over you, it's fairly easy to flip somebody off (as long as you're trained in fighting, and guess what, NJ is) - NJ isn't a small guy, he weighs 240 himself, so they're fairly even on size.

[Guest Steve O]

but NJ is 240lbs of fat whilst Cena is 248lbs of muscle. NJ is too old now and beaten up. I will admit when he was young and healthy he would win jsut not know

[Guest Boyo]

Ok, seeing as people don't like the Mike Tyson argument...

 

Kurt Angle won an Olympic gold medal 10 years ago. Similar to New Jack in the notion that about 10 years ago New Jack was at the top of his game and was a bit crazy, Kurt Angle was Olympic Champion.

 

You don't get better than an Olympic Champion. You don't. It doesn't happen.

 

18 or so months ago a nice young middle class kid called Daniel Puder handed Kurt Angle his ass on a plate in the middle of the ring in a shoot fight.

 

Angle/New Jack/Tyson may once have been the top dog, the hardest, the toughest, the most mental, the most clinically insane, a world champion...whatever.

 

Puder/Cena/Williams are the younger, bigger, stronger, fitter, more powerful men. I'm just surprised more people don't think like this.

 

New Jack, if he got an advantage in a real fight against Cena, would almost certainly finish Cena off. But that's IF he got an advantage. If.

 

And what makes you think John Cena isn't completely crazy in a fight as well?None of you know what he's like, including me. Me or you could be completely wrong or right about him.

 

Cheers!

[lawrence619 13]

Eh, 619 dude...

 

You've already established you're a pri*k so there's no need to continue to do so.;)

 

Eh, thirteen dude...

 

Lighten up, i was just messing about with you.

Also does having an opinion on something establish me as a *****? Stupid me of course it does, i forgot my opinion is different to yours that must be what makes me a *****!!!

Edited May 3, 2006 by MrFill

[Guest MrFill]

Opinions are like butt-holes, everyone has one.

[Guest Steve O]

Ok, seeing as people don't like the Mike Tyson argument...

 

Kurt Angle won an Olympic gold medal 10 years ago. Similar to New Jack in the notion that about 10 years ago New Jack was at the top of his game and was a bit crazy, Kurt Angle was Olympic Champion.

 

You don't get better than an Olympic Champion. You don't. It doesn't happen.

 

18 or so months ago a nice young middle class kid called Daniel Puder handed Kurt Angle his ass on a plate in the middle of the ring in a shoot fight.

 

Angle/New Jack/Tyson may once have been the top dog, the hardest, the toughest, the most mental, the most clinically insane, a world champion...whatever.

 

Puder/Cena/Williams are the younger, bigger, stronger, fitter, more powerful men. I'm just surprised more people don't think like this.

 

New Jack, if he got an advantage in a real fight against Cena, would almost certainly finish Cena off. But that's IF he got an advantage. If.

 

And what makes you think John Cena isn't completely crazy in a fight as well?None of you know what he's like, including me. Me or you could be completely wrong or right about him.

 

Cheers!

 

 

I feel the same mate top post I hope everyone unerstands what we are getting on about.

[DC 536]

If you don't believe me. Let's take a look at the Mass Transit match. Mass Transit walked in with his father and a midget. Didn't look to be in shape and was quite well rounded. He knew he was working a match with New Jack. Mass Transit had never been bladed before and asked New Jack to balde him a little to know the feeling of it.

 

Of course New Jack was happy to do it. But he just didn't blade him a little...he f'n bladed him ear to ear. The kid was in a pool of his own blood. While all this was going on the father screamed for him to stop but New Jack said "Shut the f*ck up!" and continued to kick and punch the kid.

 

You say that as if New Jack meant to blade MT like that.....he didn't.

 

Khulas did ask New Jack to blade him in the match, as he had never did it before, and New Jack agreed.........but when it came to it, the kid got scared and flinched when NJ had the blade against his head. This caused the blade to rupture too much into the skull, catching a big vein. The ensuing blood loss was because of an accident.

 

Don't get me wrong...after it, New Jack had no sympathy for the kid, and did continue to beat on him.....telling him to "shut the f*ck up" mainly because it was a worked match (but a little would have been because he was such being such a cry-baby), and New Jack wanted to get to the end of it.

 

Had he intentionally did this, then he would have been found guilty in the proceeding court case.

 

New Jack didn't cut Mass Transit like that intentionally, but he didn't give a sh*t about it afterwards either.

[lawrence619 13]

Ok, seeing as people don't like the Mike Tyson argument...

 

Kurt Angle won an Olympic gold medal 10 years ago. Similar to New Jack in the notion that about 10 years ago New Jack was at the top of his game and was a bit crazy, Kurt Angle was Olympic Champion.

 

You don't get better than an Olympic Champion. You don't. It doesn't happen.

 

18 or so months ago a nice young middle class kid called Daniel Puder handed Kurt Angle his ass on a plate in the middle of the ring in a shoot fight.

 

Angle/New Jack/Tyson may once have been the top dog, the hardest, the toughest, the most mental, the most clinically insane, a world champion...whatever.

 

Puder/Cena/Williams are the younger, bigger, stronger, fitter, more powerful men. I'm just surprised more people don't think like this.

 

New Jack, if he got an advantage in a real fight against Cena, would almost certainly finish Cena off. But that's IF he got an advantage. If.

 

And what makes you think John Cena isn't completely crazy in a fight as well?None of you know what he's like, including me. Me or you could be completely wrong or right about him.

 

Cheers!

I agree with everything here, top post!!!

[Guest Jung]

Thats true, but you forget that Daniel Puder has massive amateur background training. Thus of course he'd be able to use his superior speed and youth.

 

What training does Cena have?

 

Cena could be mental, but I certainly wouldn't want to bet on it. If I was a betting man, I'd go for New Jack, regardless of age.

 

Cena has no fight training, and by the way he acts, isn't mental like NJ. Williams beating Tyson was a case of a younger man beating an older man, but both are in the same field, who understand the same rules and fight the same way, same applies to Angle and Puder.

 

Cena and NJ don't fight the same way, and definitely don't have the same rules.

[Guest Thirteen]

Ok, seeing as people don't like the Mike Tyson argument...

 

Kurt Angle won an Olympic gold medal 10 years ago. Similar to New Jack in the notion that about 10 years ago New Jack was at the top of his game and was a bit crazy, Kurt Angle was Olympic Champion.

 

You don't get better than an Olympic Champion. You don't. It doesn't happen.

 

18 or so months ago a nice young middle class kid called Daniel Puder handed Kurt Angle his ass on a plate in the middle of the ring in a shoot fight.

 

Angle/New Jack/Tyson may once have been the top dog, the hardest, the toughest, the most mental, the most clinically insane, a world champion...whatever.

 

Puder/Cena/Williams are the younger, bigger, stronger, fitter, more powerful men. I'm just surprised more people don't think like this.

 

New Jack, if he got an advantage in a real fight against Cena, would almost certainly finish Cena off. But that's IF he got an advantage. If.

 

And what makes you think John Cena isn't completely crazy in a fight as well?None of you know what he's like, including me. Me or you could be completely wrong or right about him.

 

Cheers!

 

Again we are talking about a STREET FIGHT.:roll

 

Case in point Evander Holyfield Vs Mike Tyson-

Evander was the more focused, bigger, had a longer reach, was unphased by Tysons history, the better technical boxer of the two etc,etc. It's safe to say he was the favourite(and for good bloody reason too).

 

He decided to start using his head, butting into Tyson on more the one occassion thinking he could out psyche Mike and cause him to become even more frazzled and unfocused then he was. All he proceeded to do was bring the STREET out of Mike. As far as Mike was concerned he was taking the piss out of him and he let his rage and instincts take over.

 

Basically the mentality that kept him alive on the streets as a kid...

 

He bit his ear off.

Susequently all that training and conditioning did **** all for Holyfield when he was taken to the streets.

When he was introduced to the darker side of Tysons upbringing a thirty year old man was left hopping around the ring like a 8 year old school girl.

 

Oh and for the record Bare Knuckle Fighters/Street Fighters tend to be better and more leathal then Olympic Boxers, or any other establishments that incorporate stringent rules and regulations. Which is the reason why when someone like Tyson(in his prime) who if not discovered would have probably gone down that route tend to dominate within regulated sports.:xyx

 

And you guys really need to get off this whole size theory that 'bigger is better' and that size equates power. I mean I thought that thinking went out of the window along with platform shoes jeez.:roll

 

As I have already stated most physically superb and deadly fighters are small and lean. Case in point most hired guns/assasins, goverment agents whatever you want to call them.:xyx

 

Cheers!

Edited May 3, 2006 by Thirteen

[Guest horsemansmiler]

Again we are talking about a STREET FIGHT.:roll

 

Case in point Evander Holyfield Vs Mike Tyson-

Evander was the more focused, bigger, had a longer reach, was unphased by Tysons history, the better technical boxer of the two etc,etc. It's safe to say he was the favourite(and for good bloody reason too).

 

He decided to start using his head, butting into Tyson on more the one occassion thinking he could out psyche Mike and cause him to become even more frazzled and unfocused then he was. All he proceeded to do was bring the STREET out of Mike. As far as Mike was concerned he was taking the piss out of him and he let his rage and instincts take over.

 

Basically the mentality that kept him alive on the streets as a kid...

 

He bit his ear off.

Susequently all that training and conditioning did **** all for Holyfield when he was taken to the streets.

When he was introduced to the darker side of Tysons upbringing a thirty year old man was left hopping around the ring like a 8 year old school girl.

 

Oh and for the record Bare Knuckle Fighters/Street Fighters tend to be better and more leathal then Olympic Boxers, or any other establishments that incorporate stringent rules and regulations. Which is the reason why when someone like Tyson(in his prime) who if not discovered would have probably gone down that route tend to dominate within regulated sports.:xyx

 

Cheers!

 

Now i agree with this post. Who knows while cena is warming up the five knuckle shuffle New jack wouldnt pull out a machete and slice him or staple his testicles with a staple gun. Nobody knows what cena is like thats all true but from what wwe has shown us i think its undoubted new jack would take cena down big style.

[lawrence619 13]

Now i agree with this post. Who knows while cena is warming up the five knuckle shuffle New jack wouldnt pull out a machete and slice him or staple his testicles with a staple gun. Nobody knows what cena is like thats all true but from what wwe has shown us i think its undoubted new jack would take cena down big style.

 

From what wwe has shown us[wtf] it's a worked environment, he has a gimmick none of it counts for anything in a real fight!!!