Evil Dead remake AND Evil Dead 4 on the way...

[Guest John Hancock]

It's actually kind of the opposite. America has legitimate freedom of speech enshrined as an actual, unquestionable right, so the government can't f*ck around with it, so you can make something ludicrously offensive, which would be an NC17, and then big stores won't sell it, but it's still legal, where as, in Britain, which doesn't have freedom of speech as a specific law, they'd just ban in. Look at the video nasties, the original cut Texas Chainsaw Massacre was illegal, illegal, in Britain until 1999. A film made in 1975 wasn't legal until I was 11 years old. Same with the original Evil Dead itself, ironically. Released in America in 1981, wasn't legal in Britain until 1990, and wasn't legal uncut in Britain until 2001. Read about the Video Recordings Act of 1984, it's a British law that still stands which saw people getting their video shops raided, and saw some folks even serving prison sentences for now mainstream movies like I Spit On Your Grave (illegal until 2001), Last House of the Left (illegal until 2002), Cannibal Holocaust (illegal until 2001), Zombie Flesh Eaters (illegal until 1999). And it still happens. Human Centipede 2, set for release in Britain, banned, released uncut in America, then finally released in Britain 30 minutes shorter, because the BBFC said the original cut was illegally offensive.

 

It's silly to say it's Americans being squeamish when the stuff they're squeamish about is illegal in other similar countries (Australia and Germany are even worse that Britain). The reason you don't get this kind of corporate self censorship in Britain is because the government's already done it for you.

[ShaolinHandLock 73]

(Australia and Germany are even worse that Britain)

 

I don't see how were worse. It is not illegal to have banned films/games etc in your possession in Australia unless they are child porn, beastiality, or terrorism material (such as bomb-making guides).

 

Banned stuff (apart from the type I just listed) is only illegal to sell/distribute here, not possess. Whereas, from what I've read, it's illegal to just possess banned stuff in Britain.

 

So I don't see how it's worse.

 

EDIT - I forgot, it's illegal in one state. Can't remember which, it's not where I live though.

Edited January 30, 2013 by ShaolinHandLock

[Guest John Hancock]

Fair enough then, I don't know too much about the Australian system, it's just place that pops up a lot as the country always demanding the most cuts.

[ShaolinHandLock 73]

Fair enough then, I don't know too much about the Australian system, it's just place that pops up a lot as the country always demanding the most cuts.

 

It's a weird system. It's still strict, don't get me wrong, but banned stuff isn't technically 'banned', it's more 'illegal to sell and/or distribute'. Unless it's something like I listed in my previous post, which are illegal under separate laws.

 

As for cuts.....really? For video games, yes, although now that hopefully should change with the 18+ rating finally brought in. As for movies though, it's rare for movies to be banned here, and its actually rare for them to be cut. Human Centipede 2 was banned here, they cut something like 20 seconds from it and it was passed. From what I've read, it's practically uncut, and the British version is far more censored. (New Zealand banned it outright!) The old Charles Bronson Death Wish films were released on DVD here uncut, whilst the US got cut versions. Anime shows that have caused censorship debate in the US and Britain have been released here uncut, without controversy.

 

So really, for movies, it's pretty much fine, not much is cut or banned. Porn on the other hand is a complete mess.

 

I've blathered on far more than I wanted to on a subject I hate, so I'll stop now.

 

Basically, most of the censorship here is video games and porn.

[King 277]

Try living in Ireland......, From Dusk Till Dawn was banned for us in the 90's.

[Guest Laffy]

Try living in Ireland......, From Dusk Till Dawn was banned for us in the 90's.

 

Why was that it not that graphic from what I remember.

[Guest John Hancock]

Yeah, that's a super weird one to ban. Is it a nudity thing?

[King 277]

Why was that it not that graphic from what I remember.

 

Yeah, that's a super weird one to ban. Is it a nudity thing?

 

It was banned due to its demonic representations such as Salma Hayak's character, Satanico Pandemonium. The ban was lifted in 2000.

 

:lol

 

Also Natural Born Killers and Clockwork Orange were banned for a long time.

[Guest Jamster26]

Argh, that tongue clip was gruesome. :lol

[Guest John Hancock]

[video=youtube;FKFDkpHCQz4]

 

Film of the year, film of the year, film of the year, film of the year.

[The Fury 65]

so ign gave this 9/10 and it's been getting pretty good reviews after it's world premiere so far

 

also....NO CGI! :D

[ShaolinHandLock 73]

No CGI? Now I'm more interested.

[DC 536]

Because CGI = automatically poorer movie?

[ShaolinHandLock 73]

Because CGI = automatically poorer movie?

 

No, it's not that.

 

There's nothing wrong with CGI, but with movies like Evil Dead and some other horror movies (such as the original Dawn of the Dead, for example) I prefer practical effects.

[dsrchris 190]

No, it's not that.

 

There's nothing wrong with CGI, but with movies like Evil Dead and some other horror movies (such as the original Dawn of the Dead, for example) I prefer practical effects.

 

I agree wholeheartedly with this. You can stick your CGI, I prefer stuff like the effects work in American Werewolf in London.

[Maxximus 353]

Ugh, this movie is going to be ridiculously awesome.

[DC 536]

I agree wholeheartedly with this. You can stick your CGI, I prefer stuff like the effects work in American Werewolf in London.

You see, I'm of the school whereby the best tool for the job is the one you use.

 

There are some films where more than one of CGI, models, matte paintings or practical effect are used, but you can't see when and where the change is and that is when you can immerse yourself.

 

This feature from Total Film (50 CGI Scenes You Didn't Notice) has some great examples of where CGI was used in a non-intrusive manner to the point you may not have even known it was a computer-generated effect.

 

Of course there is a charm to practical effects, but to dismiss a film / sequence because CGI is used seems counter-productive in the same manner some people will not watch a film because it is in black-and-white, because it is old and / or because it has subtitles. You limit yourself in that manner and you can miss out on some amazing movies.

 

I mean, DSR, with your comment above, are you saying that, for example, Terminator 2 can "stick it" because of its use of CGI?

 

EDIT - Sorry for the rant.

[dsrchris 190]

:lol Rant away buddy, I did kind of go in with a blanket sweeping statement.

 

What I should have said is that I have a much fonder place in my heart for films like Dawn of the Dead, 'Merican Werewolf, and The Thing because of the fact that all those awesome special effects were actually happening and had to be created by some kind of evil genius. Same reason I love the Thriller video.

 

And for the record Terminator 2 is one of the greatest special effects films of all time, even if I was anti-CGI there's no way anyone can hate on that film!

[Paul 584]

The best effects in T2 arent the CGI ones I think. The stuff with animatronics and identical twins are brilliant.

[DC 536]

From all the Terminator films, my favourite effect is the close-up shot of the animatronic Arnie head during the tanker chase. The attention to detail and the way you can see the inner workings of the chassis underneath is awesome.